Mark Sargent

tinfoilhatgirl

I am sorry, but since you want to take such an active part in the discussions, you should register as soon as possible. I am not going to tolerate guests who come here and tell me what they consider a real turnoff. You're not even a member! That is a bit rude. Dropping a line or two from time to time as a guest is fine, but trying to stir a conflict on a forum where you don't even want to register is a bit too much. If you want to be involved in what happens on this forum you need to register! Otherwise, please keep your opinions to yourself and stick to the topic.

@lit
I don't understand why you would ask her why she doesn't register and then when she tells you what her turnoff is, then you won't tolerate her telling you what her turnoff is? When she posts on topic, she brings her info to the table and that's what you want, isn't it?

I don't have a problem with steven, but to some, his view of himself as God brings out emotion. I'm sure he is used to that, and it shouldn't surprise anyone.

I'm looking at the thread and she jumped in on the Crow topic, that we were discussing, which is related to Mark Sargent. When you asked why she doesn't register she gave a detailed explanation. You don't have to agree with it, but you asked. I don't see a problem at all with her posting unregistered as long as she cools down on the insults. But that too was only one line in her long answer as to how she feels about her life and this board. Totally confused. I thought you would be more welcoming of someone who brings good insight.

P.S: The TinfoilHatGirl is freshly registered member now!

Heeeey....stop throwing all these roses on me

I have no personal connection to Mark Sargent. Only thing I could do is contact him via telephone or mail or whatever contact method he mentioned just as anyone of us can do it.
But as I am living in Germany it is even a bit more difficult for me than for anyone else here I assume. Dunno where you all come from but not from Germany I guess.

Didnt someone already establish an email-contact to him?

I wouldnt say I am a fan of Mark Sargent. Watched his video series once, some videos twice and thats that. And I listen to the interviews. Although half-ear because they are indeed vey similar.
I just felt that he should be defended against the IFERS posse ...because for me there is no proven evil doing. And I dont feel offended when he spirals too much into speculation-mode.
I just take from his views what resonates with me and I just overhear what I dont agree with and look what others have to say.
As I am rather new to FET there is no basis for me to take sides, that is to say take side which theory I call most plausible. I have to read and ingest a lot more information until I can do that.
Only thing is that I dont like people like the Dubay, on the personal level I do take side which is pro Sargent. But I have watched Dubay material on yt nonetheless because it is just that for me - information to think about.

What I dont agree with in regard of Mark Sargent:

His utter optimism that bringing the FE "truth" to the masses will unite them and peace will overwhelm the planet. Folks will finally realize they should stop all wars and hatred because all will understand that there must be a creator and a watcher and people will suddenly strive to be good and fight all evil.

Hm. Why should that happen?
The FE view on Earth was well accepted for thousands of years before Copernicus threw it all over and church adopted the new view on what Earth looks like.
Although people believed the view on Earth like it was written in their scriptures - hence an Earth that was created by god - they had wars going on and especially religious wars.
Why should it suddenly be all different? The contrary could happen. New wars about which religion, which god is the true one now that everyone agrees that there must be a god/creator. Even more wars could break out. As FET didnt hold them back in earlier times when FE was common sense. Knowing that Earth is maybe indeed flat would not necessarily end the problem that the Elites are powerful psychopaths and those who maybe knew all the way that earth is flat and deceived the rest of the world surely will not suddenly come to their minds and end their evil doings. Again I think the contrary would be the case. They would increase their ambition to capture us in a NWO police state tyranny as it is the basis of their power. And they will fight with hands and nails to keep it. 

This is what I would ask him if I ever get the chance to.

Good points, tilfoilhatgirl.  And yes, I don't believe any discovery of a flat earth will lead to world peace, either.

Operation or not. He is creating more Flat Earth talk in alternative media than any of the other big names. Listened to his last interview, even though they put him through the ringer, he still promotes Matt and Eric's work. And don't forget he interviewed against the tough questions in that Aiken interview. And wrote a message to Eric trying once again to talk through their differences like decent people. He clearly states which views he has that differ from other researchers, and he still claims to have not studied it as in depth as the other guys and he is only looking to get people to think about it and do their own research. I can't exactly label any of this as wrongdoing or bad for the flat earth community. There are some conclusions that baffle me, but he made them sound more like his conclusions rather than reality, which is how I felt in other earlier interviews.
Although the world may not become a better place if this actually ever gets accepted (unlikely in our lifetime, but hey we're trying), it is a much better view to be giving to someone who is just waking up than what you get from the other guys.
"Hey, now that the Earth is flat, what are we gonna do about these Jews?" or "what are we gonna do about the Jesuits? or Masons? etc."
This is just going to chase away a person who is simply interested in learning more about the possibility.

He said something on that in one of the interviews. When he was asked, why his videos are so "polished". And he explained that he did the voice over sentence by sentence, very carefully thought of what to say next. With the audience in his mind.

You will admit that it is two different things:
a) Make a video with a well thought of voice over, where you can make as many takes as you like until you think you got it right.
b) a spontaneous interview with spontaneous questions by the host

I experienced it too when I made a video on a topic that needed explanations. I tried a take where I just started talking as if someone interviewed me on it and it became a mess for my understanding. I stopped and listened to it and found that I missed to mention some important details. 
I started again, made a list of main points to adress, thought in what order it would be best to work them off that the overall presentation has some logic structure, tried again, sentence by sentence style and the outcome was completely different - it was good  

Lion

I am not sure on that. I would have to listen again to some and pay some extra attention if there are such inconsistencies.
As far as I remember when interviewers referred on a certain detail of his flat earth clues it always was like: "Oh yes, that was video 5 and it was called XY ..." and then some kind of rant that repeats what is being said in that very flat earth clue video. It is just my impression that the inconsistencies appear when it touches the details where he enters his unannounced speculation mode. But I am not sure if my impression is right or do I mix in something that I add myself in my head what he is missing in his own explanations and maybe this creates a false impression....might listen again to some of the interviews.

Yes, I agree heathen. This is an issue that I will put attention on.

I watched FE clue 11 another time and the more I think of it the more red flaggish it becomes.
The world he describes in FEC11 as something good we should all hope for is actually not so much a comfortable idea.
It is about being good because you feel watched and pressured...it is more like a form of soft dictatorship without a visible dictator.
He asks would you really do this or that evil if you knew you might be held accountable because the creator might be watching.
Maybe not....but one thing is for sure, the Elites in Power would not care as they havent before.

We heard the rumor that NWO wants to establish a one world religion.
How could that ever be established?
What could ever drive a Christian to accept something that a Muslim accepts and vice versa.
You need that shock and awe event that changes the reality for the people forever.

What if...
Could it be the Elites plan is actually to relieve the Flat Earth to the masses? Maybe sooner than we think?
Sargent says this is not about wealth and money as it does not define our heart.
And that our World needs to be fixed and that is urgently.

Hm. What if the Elites that are stuck into the corner -at least economically- want to relieve Flat Earth together with orchestrating the big economic collapse?
Like: "Oh you lost all your savings, you are broke but guess what you dont need your money anyway, we have proof that God exists, look here the Earth is flat and we are living in a Dome! Join the new One World religion and you will get help in these desparate times! Take this chip and you will never need money again! One world religion is about love and care for each other! And dont be mad at your politicians and the bankers and the royals and...dont forget! God is there and he is watching! "

Then Sargent says: People wont forget the deception, but they will forgive you for it!

Now this is interesting. As he here turns into talking towards the Elites directly. It is like come on guys, it was a bad prank on us going on for over 500 years, but it is okay, we are prepared to take the mock, now you can reveal what you are doing, we got you but we will forgive you.
Hm ...really?
What is also interesting, I think this at least is manipulative. As it is not only an appeal toward the Elites but also towards US. It is planting an idea in US about how to react when the truth should come out. Stay calm, love each other, dont be mad at NASA who took billions to tell you blatant lies...they had no other alternative, it was well meant to hide the truth, you werent capable of bearing it, you would have freaked out. Surely, now that you are grown up you can hear the truth that Santa Claus does not exist. But behave! Or do you want me to think it was wrong to finally tell the truth and we were right that you cannot handle it! Dont destroy my good expectations in you!

When he says the world needs to be fixed urgently he shows the picture of a mass protest being beaten down by the police.
Now what is it exactly what needs to be fixed? The police brutality or the mass protest?
Who is the real problem? People that are on the brink of desperation and spark mass protests as the system strips them down to the bones?
Or is the problem the system that got away with enslaving people for centuries?
Or to put it in other words: Is the one that is crossing the red light in the night where there is no traffic the problem or is the red light with the camera built in the problem that forces people to "behave" although following the "law" is idiotic, a waste of time, against your nature, as you are standing on an open crossroad and can see that there is no car around as far as you can see.
Still you have to behave because someone told you so. Refuse to move freely because someone put in a law you got to stop here no matter if it makes sense or not. BEHAVE!
Is that really what the Creator planned for us? To behave towards others who put themselves into the position of being the rulers over us?

Sargent says a truth like that will make us more noble. Something we should have been from the start.
Hm really...? Is it really us small folks that havent been noble? Sure, everyone should start with themselves if you want to change the world...but do we really believe it will change anything if we get more noble? Or wouldnt it maybe only make it easier for the psychopathic Elites to steer us where they want us to be, because it is "not noble" to show resistance....

Sargent ends with you should always ask questions and do your own research...
Well yes, with FEC11 he is ringing some alarms.
It will be interesting to see what comes next.

jayjay

I might ask him why he said that admiral Byrd discovered the dome, when this is not documented anywhere. I might also ask him why he supports the flat Earth map when it is clear that the distances don't work and it should be revised instead of perpetuated. I will also ask him why he says flights disappear when you use a certain flight tracker and not checking all of them to see if it happens there too. Also, why does it matter some flights have connections when there are direct flights as well.

Newest interview of Mark Sargent

Well, Sargent might still be on IFERS but he has not and does not as far as I know take part in any discussion, he is just a passive member.

So why should you ban a silent passive member. It does not change anything as you cant silence someone who is silent anyway.

Takes all the fun away from the banning...the fun is in hindering someone to speak their thought. Sargent does not speak on IFERS. 

Thanks for posting it.

Lots of verifiable biographical information (e.g.: names of his companies) in the first two minutes. It doesn't take much to check all sorts of details about him (not that I'll do it).

I guess that video has been deleted which is too bad. I watched a bit of it yesterday and Mark talked about the documentary "Room 237" which is all about dissecting the subliminal meanings of the Stanley Kubrick movie "The Shining" which has all kinds of flat earth and moon landing hoax themes to it so I put it on pause and watched that documentary instead because TFHG said there was nothing new in the interview. Naturally I had horrible nightmares last night but this morning when I went to watch the rest of Mark's interview...poof it was gone.

If anybody hasn't seen "Room 237" here is a link...it's pretty interesting but there isn't anything you probably haven't seen before regarding the flat earth.