Mark Sargent

that's not very nice to call me a shill. i take it as an extreme insult.
there is no reason to stay a flat earther when one is presented with the evidence.
concaveearth.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-rectilineator.html

Yes, tinfoilhatgirl, he is right. The reason we created this forum is that we also were called "shills", and even more Mark Sargent, so if we want to promote respect for him, we have to promote respect for everyone who has been accused of being a "shill" at one time or another. It's not like your favorite person becomes immune from suspicions and someone else's favorite person, just because he holds minority views, automatically gets voted as "shill" by a kangaroo court. Otherwise we'd be exactly like IFERS.

jayjay

Mark did a great job at fooling people. Most of his claims are made up. There was hardly any claim which wasn't modified by Mark to fit his theory. By the way, this guy Crow777 falls into the same category. People who make up stuff to gain publicity. Instead of watching his videos people should go out, get a telescope and look at the Moon. There is no wave! Mark should start admitting that he just wants to believe it is true but has no evidence. Of course, he won't get invited to radio shows anymore if he just said, well, I am guessing maybe the Earth is flat, because it sounds cool.

Number one, you Steve, are not a shill. However, the rectilineator "experiment" has never been recreated because there was no need to. For example...IF the earth was concave as Cyrus Teed's theory states, then navigating an airplane would be impossible. That is just ONE problem. Also, acoustic levitation to keep the oceans in place around the INSIDE of a "GLOBE" (there's that globe word again), does not work to keep the water OFF the dry land, and if there are creatures living on the dry land surface, moving about freely. Concave earth and convex earth have the same water issues.

PLEASE don't direct me or anyone to a video you did...express your answers here so that things can be made clear.

no, the experiment was never re-conducted because of confirmation bias against earth concavity. airplanes navigate the way they do BECAUSE they are inside the earth, as the pressure gauges their altitude. Water is held at bay because of the pressurized system. It's very simple, you only THINK water is flat but when it is actually measured, it shows a dip. Joseph Winthrop has already busted flat earth with his laser experiments. They show the middle of the lake dipping below the starting and ending points. The Rectilineator does as well. You only THINK water levels are flat because the concave curvature is extremely minute within a short distance. You also deny how the heavens operate. I PROVED beyond a doubt flat earth is entirely untenable. Video in a few minutes.

In looking at the FACTS, (not theory...as even gravity has never been proven and is another theory up there on the shelf with numerous others), and OBSERVABLE life, the THEORY of the Earth being concave does not work. Sorry. That's out. But that doesn't mean we should stop thinking and exploring plausible ideas. But to continue spending time on something that has too many "this does not work" issues, don't make sense.

And the actor known as "Mark Sargent" claims we are under a dome and we are not

LIT
"Instead of watching his videos people should go out, get a telescope and look at the Moon. There is no wave!"

Getting a telescope and looking at the moon is not what this guy does. He points a camera at it for hours on end. That's what you would need to do in order to recreate his experiment. I felt that was ignorant. I apologize. I take the ignorant preaching part back. You do promote thought and I didn't think that statement through before I hit send. I appreciate your insight on everything. I have explored many different avenues due to your message board and your research. Hope you don't hold it against me.

Mark Sargent promotes the Moon Wave Video, and we spun a little off topic.

I find it hard to believe that he is the only one who ever pointed a camera at the Moon for hours on end. However, as far as I know the wave has been recorded only by him. That is suspicious. When Mark endorses videos like that as evidence, he is basically promoting gullibility. You can't just believe whatever someone on youtube posted. It might sound fascinating, but that is not a good reason to believe it is true. Mark has many similar ideas which are not backed up by any facts. In fact, he mixes some truth with lies. He talks about admiral Byrd, for instance, then he mentions that Byrd discovered the dome. How is this not deceptive?

jayjay

I am not suggesting you shouldn't look at youtube videos. I am just saying that if it is sensational the chances are it is fake. Of course you can't trust him. I am surprised how suspicious people are of everyone else but the guys who post stuff on youtube and some random people on forums. Why do you think it makes more sense to distrust people who professionally do something and trust those who do it for fun in their free time?

Okay, I guess I was wrong then. How do you know this anyway?

Honestly, I never studied Crow777's videos. It just seems fishy.

Am I not allowed to suspect someone of making stuff up? Not to mention that the so-called wave looks like a software glitch or a camera thing. I am sure no one saw it with their eyes, and not on video. That should tell you something.

It is like believing in ghosts because someone recorded one on video, but no one saw it in the room.

Also, why don't you join? Are you going to always participate in the discussions as a guest? I find this strange. It almost suggests that you don't like this forum.

I think you know I don't support blind trust, professional or amateur. I'm just saying that you can't just say it's false because it seems fishy. That to me says it deserves a closer look before you can throw it in the trash. I don't see it as a software glitch because he panned up away and it caught up after the pan. If it is a fake it was done intentionally and should be provably false.

@lit: Why so offended?

You said "However, as far as I know the wave has been recorded only by him. That is suspicious."

A simple statement that is not correct and I corrected it with the facts I know. How can I know? Because I am a follower of Crrows channel for about a year or so and I am very interested in the Lunar Wave phenomenon.
And nowhere did I attack you in my post that you must believe in the Lunar Wave. You are free to believe it is a camera glitch or whatever, I dont care?!
I just wanted to mention there is more to it than only Crrow insisting the wave exists. Others have filmed it too which gives quite some more weight to Crrows claims.
So others have filmed it too however too few to say it is a phenomenon that anyone can easily catch who has a telescope and points it towards the moon.
Why has no one seen it without telescope? Well because you need the telescope to see it as it is very sudden and vague and you need the magnification of the scope to detect it.
No one has seen Earth from above either. But we make our theories about what Earth actually looks like is it flat does it have a dome or not ....Croww also states what he thinks is going on based on the research he and others have done so far. Nothing else.

And apart from that I dont know if I will be interested in the FET for too long, this means discussing it. Well yes, I came to the conclusion you all have valid points and the Earth is most probably flat. I have been deceived, but okay, now I know and my life will go on I guess.
What else?
Stagnation.
There wont be anything for us to do than to argue over and over about the details of the Flat Earth construct.
Some experiments have already been made to prove the FET. Not by us however.
But I guess none of us will have the means or the possibility or even the permission to prove anything by ourselves anytime soon if ever in our lifetime. None of us is a scientist to think of something completely new to prove FET.
So I might move on from this topic after having accepted it (as the details dont change the general problem which is the overall deception matrix we live in and is forced upon us by those who are more mighty than we little folks)....and wait for something big to happen that might be a game changer (which could also come by Croww - who knows!)
Because it helps nothing to know the Earth is flat if the Elites are faster with implementing NWO, Agenda 21 and other horrific threats than we are with coming to terms on how to unveil the deception to the masses. And even if we managed to get the masses to be interested into FET, the Elites will go into panic mode and hurry up with their destruction of humanity and we will all have to face closer problems which is survival. Doesnt matter if Earth is flat or spherical if the Elites are plotting to kill off the majority of mankind which is also a fact that I have come to accept for myself.

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