Mark Sargent

OMG, Mark Sargent is funny. He just agrees with all the nonsense people tell him and says yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

The girl asked him why you don't have midnight Sun in Patagonia, and Mark says "excellent point" bla bla. How is it excellent? It is so ignorant!

The girl is obviously confused. Has she checked where Patagonia is? The midnight Sun happens only in the Antarctic circle. Patagonia reaches down to 54-55 degrees south.

The Antarctic circle starts at 66°33′45.7″ south. It is like asking why you don't have midnight Sun in Hamburg, Germany. That is just pathetic. The guy is making up everything, he doesn't want to argue with anyone and agrees with whatever bullshit people say. That is total disinfo. Eric is actually right not to talk to him. You can't learn anything from Mark, because he is simply making up stuff and doesn't stick to any facts.

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Is Patricia Aiken the girl who suggested that we should have midnight Sun in Patagonia in South America? If it is the same person, I am not surprised she got misled by Eric's behavior. She obviously has no clue what she is talking about and is not educated on the subject. It is one thing to believe in something to be true, it is totally different to make up stuff in order to convince the others there is something fishy and you're right. Eric is a clown just like Mark. The other option is that they are all comedians and doing this whole thing as a social experiment on human ignorance and gullibility.

Finally getting into the Aiken Interview, the woman is making me sick in her defense of Eric. If she is willing to call out Mark on his issues, she best be willing to apologize for jumping the gun on her evaluation of Eric and call him out as well. Mark bit his tongue on calling her out on her assessment of him and he shouldn't have. I'll give the guy credit for facing the criticisms, whether or not I agree with his positions or answers. I want to hear the interview where Eric attempts to defend his looney tune IFERS operation. Tinfoilgirl is right, someone needs to get the truth about his message board in to this lady. She needs to explain herself. And she needs to confront Eric. If not, any credibility she has will go right down the toilet.

Well, wise points... except for one in my opinion: "manlyhood" is what is destroying Eric's reputation and forum, so I personally prefer to be armed with "rationality".

In this sense, I am trying to separate his personality from his research (and work on flat earth: videos and books).

I am trying not to take what he did to us personally, and praise Eric's research and yet at the same time I denounce how poorly he has treated us, well-meaning fans who worked for him, posting hundreds of posts and advertising his forum for a month, until we were banned and defamed as "shills" for respectfully disagreeing on something. And all this happened without any warning, probably just in a fit of anger, which happened because he's probably shy and repressed his emotions for too long. Most people would give you warning and solve problems before it's too late.

Thanks, LIT. I am glad to see that we agree on these issues. I always remind everyone, because, since our recent experience at TFES and IFERS, where we developed a phobia respectively for being ridiculed and violently attacked, we don't want to do to others what we didn't appreciate being done to us.

Regarding Mark Sargent, I found two more videos of criticism from Lord Steven Christ, who never engages in any "ad hominem" attacks (I find this a good thing):
www.youtube.com/user/TheFoxStevie/videos

Next Mark Sargent interview!

not worth my time but if so please notify me - that guy is only repeating himself since Interview 1

calling Christ a moron will not look good for your plea to get into heaven.
calling Christ totally insane will lead other to sure death.

This guy isn't speaking for Jesus, at all.

To get into heaven, believe in Jesus (John 6:47).  That easy.

**** has conveniently shut off all comments to his videos recently. Else I could easily find some disrespectful examples.
(hey, didnt you promise us you will be away for at least a while, so please, why dont you fulfill your promises! )

@ascenci:
So you make big fuss about Sargent saying he is Christian but "he doesnt talk like a Christian" and yet you are plotting with such an individual that is claiming he is the reincarnation of christ?! You serious?!?!? Not only is this an insult to any Christian (I guess it is even for Mark Sargent) but especially you holding up the Christian aspect of FET giving this ******* a forum makes me wonder if you should maybe better check your temperature ...to say it as diplomatic as I can.

Best way to flush another forum down the toilet.

Stevie has ruined MANY quality forums over the years. THAT is his goal. But the LIT won't see it until everyone is gone. Here's some Steve at his best:

I have shown you examples so far, and so far, you have made excuses for him AGAINST your own policy. He is directing members to his videos where he proclaims himself to be God. Is that what you want??

I have listened to almost all his videos but many interviews I had them on in the background while doing other things. I think they are repetitive and I have thought it is odd he gets so many interviews, one right after the other. I still like hearing him talk about it because he sounds like a regular guy talking about his own theory over dinner or drinks.

I don't know what it is with people interpreting Mark in such weird ways. For example, on Eric Dubay's criticism video of Mark, someone in the comment section takes issue with his use of the word, "narrative" and seems to think he means he had a dream of the flat earth and a vision. But I have always taken him to mean he studied it, either by videos and/or reading, thought about it a lot, then woke up from sleep having this "clarity" that he could put out some videos with more clarity and streamline what everyone else is basically saying about a flat earth along with his own views. I took his "narrative" to mean, his own thoughts from what he had been thinking and learning, essentially his communication of them.

I used to go to a philosphy forum and they used the term "narrative" similar to what this wiki page says, ".....human beings experience and comprehend life as a series of ongoing narratives, each with its own conflicts, characters, beginning, middle, and end. Fisher believes that all forms of communication that appeal to our reason are best viewed as stories shaped by history, culture, and character, and all forms of human communication are to be seen fundamentally as stories.". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrative_paradigm
Whether he means it just like that, I'm not sure, but it seems people are making out to be like a script given to an actor and his story about waking up with clarity and plan of what to do, as a cover. I personally find it kind of irritating this can be interpreted in a negative light so easily.




Waking up in the middle of the night and having a "narrative" isn't suspicious to me. It's not unusual to sleep on something and come up with a better answer than you previously had.

In this video the host asked Mark, "...why is this now on people's radar...it's interesting in itself". Mark responds he woke up and had the narrative in his head, he says he watched all the flat earth stuff that was done by everybody else. He then says he thought he, "could put out something that is clear, that is very easy to digest, and the people can understand". "Because a lot of it sounded kinda static-ey, not condeming any of the guys who did stuff out there, it was some good stuff...." [you can listen, that was rough quotes]

Mark wasn't using his "narrative" as proof of anything (read comment on video itself at 9:06). Nor does it sound like he was given a script to me. Nor was he just asked what convinced him it was flat, nor was he asked how it got on "his" radar.

I don't think I watched any further beyond this.  I'm not sticking up for Mark per se, this just doesn't look so bad to me.  All that's odd to me is all the interviews all at once.  And if Mark successfully did what he said he thought he could do, maybe that makes sense too then.