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Post by LIT on Apr 24, 2015 13:21:19 GMT
The fact that Mark doesn't want to discuss his ideas on any forum shows that he does what he does only for publicity. I wouldn't trust a word of what he says. He doesn't get involved in any arguments with anyone, because he doesn't want his claims to be refuted right away by critics. He prefers to give interviews and increase his popularity.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 5:56:42 GMT
Latest Mark Sargent interview: STRANGE WORLD Episode 1 - Fireworks - YouTubeIt is the first episode of his new radio show at Truth Frequency Radio: Mark Sargent – Strange World - Truth Frequency RadioA copy of the show can also be found here (streaming or in .mp3 format): Strange World – Mark K Sargent – Fireworks - Truth Frequency RadioPretty funny start in the first few minutes, where they talk about his being a government agent. He talks about fireworks for almost the entire show. He built fireworks when he was in college. min. 12He talks about his house when he was child, and gives, once again, the exact address he lived at. 1:34:00More about his supposedly being a "shill" about the caesar incident at IFERS, when he had found a Mark Sargent in Boston, in court for a child custody case: ifers.boards.net/post/2510/threadifers.boards.net/post/2552/threadHi guys - so you really think I am a shill right? And you want to ban me? I could be wrong with the guy in court allthough I was comparing these guys and found many similarities -. but over all I think this mark sargent character was placed to be exposed anyways - the dome articles changed on wikipedia and once the interviews came out I, like some of you too, had many moments where i thought "why isnt he making this point clear , -and why is he always pointing to this enclosed dome system - and why of course didnt he mention any of many proofs that the earth is flat when asked to, he didnt have anything to say and this was the point I wanted to expose him as not legit -. So you can ban me but I will always follow my intuition and I will always correct myself If I am wrong .- I was starting research flat earth over a year ago and I like making videos - I dont make money of them or have this intention The reason that I suspect you of being a Shill is simple; you claim to post a video about Sargent, despite the fact that the man in the video is obviously not Sargent. As Eric said, why don't you remove the video? If you do, we will know that you were simply incorrect, whereas if you leave the video up, we will know that you are intentionally promoting disinformation, and that you are either a Shill or a troll. The one who is promoting disinformation is mark sargent by making the whole idea stupid at the end .- I zoomed in the footage and compared some of his - many things point to they being the same person. Im either a shill or troll - if you dont like my opinion than this is fine with me, you can argue by facts but simply saying it is wrong is your opinion - I see many share mine and I got some interesting messages of people who were once in this forum .- I always made my own thing and dont stick to any group in general allthough i dont like to end in a shillbottle with nonsense like "i dont have any proof" like mark announced At this point: Do you let me have my own mind and opinion or do you have proof that I am wrong that he isnt a shill and these guys arent the same? You can go on call me shill now and I know you guys arent legit as mark is Okay then, bye bye Caesar, you didn't pass the shill test. Neither did Marlon with his constant posts about Acenci. Feel free to join the "Shill World" Forum, agents-only exclusive. They talk about this other case, cobracommander, someone who was matching Mark Sargent's voice with the voice of an actor for a Microsoft product. cobracommander was a member of IFERS (already banned, for allegedly being wrong about his comparison): ifers.boards.net/post/4564/threadifers.boards.net/post/4744/threadWhat say you now Cobracommander? This was your first post. Your second post was to say it's 100% him. So you're now yet another suspicious character associated with "fakeologist" just like Acenci, Passagero, Unreal, and of course Mark Sargent. Also, just like Mark Sargent, fakeologist has long been a member here at IFERS but refuses to post anything. Mark joined IFERS on March 9th, Fakeologist joined us on March 12th. The last time Mark even signed in however was March 10th, fakeologist was last signed in 12 hours ago... right around when cobracommander posted the video ;-) Just sayin'. Mark Sargent is a character, not a person, but a character played by people. I simply turned on the power on to the game in their system. Mark is the armor Master Chief wears, Sargent is the rank of the character. The new Halo has another main character named Lock, and now you have a second Mark Sargent in Keegan Michael Key aka Key from Key &Peele. So you have a lock and a key now. My comment section in my vid covered all this, plus I have ton of other stuff I haven't posted yet. This is the their real Flat Earth Clues. Halo has always been big on Easter Eggs. Check out everything I said and see if I'm wrong. Haha! I can be found on the Cincinnati Bengals Messageboard dating back to 2005 under Cobra Commander, and elected to their Messageboard HOF, so I can prove who I am. Just a regular dude that watched the Bengals. None of anything with Fakeologist and my registrations have anything to do than both of us becoming intrigued by FE. ;) A game of real conspiracy tied to a real life conspiracy. Again, you provided no information when requested to prove the riddle that you've created. Your want for attention is lost on me. If you have nothing to add then you should stay quite until such time as you can present your claims. Anthony B., aka Cobra Commander "The whole world built for you is an illusion, and the one God built it real." "It wasn't your fault the govts forced you go to their schooling and programmed your brain .. that you live on a spinning ball that rotates around the Sun at 66,600 mph. 666" ref: www.youtube.com/channel/UCHkZLuuD6BZXZROe05p1t6Q/videosI'm merely putting the puzzle pieces together to a puzzle I know Is there. If you think it's pure coincidence Mark Sargent's birthplace just happens to be the same location as the developer of Halo, Bungie, so beit. ;) What a strange conversation. Feels like when the police is interrogating a player kid. Can we be a bit more firm and serious about the topic? We don't want to waste time playing games with shills. Yes, I agree with AMD. Bye bye shillcommander, talk to you again when you proxy-in pretending to be someone else. Banned. They talk about the infighting, the suspicions, the witch hunts among conspiracy theorists. Very interesting. 1:46:00Hilarious part about the globe in his hands, and how he was accused of holding it, but then he got rid of it, and then he was accused of making an Illuminati pyramid with his hands. |
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Post by tinfoilhatgirl on Apr 26, 2015 9:31:57 GMT
Pheeewww...Sargent was quick with getting a lift and is now his own radio host  The Dubay is going to freak out Edit: Muahahaha, the fireworks story is pretty cool |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 20:29:48 GMT
Very elaborate theories at IFERS, while I am thinking more and more that Mark Sargent is not a "shill" at all... ifers.boards.net/post/5304/threadThe shills all turn off their comments sections... makes me want to leave mine on 8-) Also I enjoy reading and interacting with people in the comments. I just ban all the shills and assholes, if anyone asks a genuine courteous question I like to answer them. In today's new interview, weeks after promising Patricia he'd stop playing with that stupid ball-Earth "stage prop," Shill Sargent Non-Sense is back spinning it affront the camera as usual! So he's lied yet again. The first thing he says in the interview is how "stupid and ridiculous" the flat Earth obviously is. No it's not. The spinning ball-Earth through infinite vacuum of open-ended space is ridiculous and stupid, but it's in his script to keep mentioning how "stupid and ridiculous" the flat Earth is while playing with the ball-Earth in his hands to subconsciously deter neophytes. As everyone here probably already knows, this dude's a psyop. Mark = A person identified as an easy target, or sucker. A mark is always the short end of a joke or scam, and is never let in on whats going on. A mark is usually being cheated out of money. It's origin is from old English traveling carnivals from the late 1800s to early 1900s, where workers would refer to people paying to see thier made up shows and games a mark. Sargent = Sergeant = An officer who enforces the judgments of a court or the commands of one in authority. In addition to once again fondling his golden globe ball earth in this vid, he's wearing a Green Lantern shirt. Green Lantern IS a popular comic book character, sure, but is one who is bestowed a power ring by a dying space alien, thus in this way he could also be subtly reinforcing the idea of a ball earth and universe full of ball planets with numerous alien species. That, or it's a coincidence. But like the Sergeant of the Marks has said before "I believe in coincidences, I just haven't ever seen one." |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 7:56:12 GMT
Another related post from IFERS: ifers.boards.net/post/5343/threadI saw that video, and it's definitely Caesar's second-worst video after the MS-double vid he took down. It seems like the fakeologist, cobracommander, Anthony B, Caesar crew are trying to create a ridiculous random rabbit hole where they spend hours scanning Halo 5 text/audio looking for "Hunt the Truth Clues," then promoting it as though they've discovered something ground-breaking, lol. Anthony B says: "I was very disheartened when Eric Dubay banned me for laying out these clues and asking those questions, but your comment of how you were upset about how things transpired gave me new life. It became very obvious that something big was centered around Halo 5 when you and I started bouncing clues off each other and making connections to not just Mark Sargent, but the entire YouTube truth movement. There is absolutely no way that everything we found is just coincidences. This is very very big." Haha, it's NOT Mark's voice, but they keep going on without retracting that obvious error. Then they go even further saying "Hunt the Truth" is secretly referencing some guy named "Brendon Hunt" and this is apparently a big flat Earth clue!? What a joke these fake flat Earth researchers are. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 8:07:36 GMT
Latest video by caesar. This is a hot subject, in that it is related to all the reciprocal accusations of being "shills", which involved Mark Sargent, him, cobracommander, and others at IFERS, including many members here, who were banned from IFERS: Comment at IFERS: ifers.boards.net/post/5323/thread"Cae sar" created a new video called "share your clues to hunt the truth". In this video he's trying to leverage the nonsense started by "cobra commander", on this forum, related to Halo 5. In the comment section, of the video, you will see "Sandy D" and "Anthony B" (aka cobra commander), discussing him looking for "Sargent Clues as it relates to Halo 5"; and how he couldn't provide his knowledge base, on this forum, before he was banned. Note: the voice in the Video, regarding Halo 5, is not "Mark Sargent". ref: youtube .. /watch?v=w8f56zq2EoU |
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Post by zero11s on Apr 28, 2015 10:58:47 GMT
of course its Mark Sargents voice - lol now that he is busted his pseudo enemies from IFERS come to the rescue
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Post by tinfoilhatgirl on Apr 28, 2015 20:09:26 GMT
No it is not Sargents voice. It is similar yes, but intonation and speed is different.
And even if it was Sargent voice, what exactly does it proove?
Would it be a problem if someone like Sargent is a voice actor and was offered the job to speek this role?
Sargent commented on this in one of his interviews. Made sense what he said concerning this. You can look up at the film database who spoke that role and it is a hollywood actor.
So what is the point? I dont get the fuss about it.
P.S: I am pretty sure if there is someone in the community who has the means to do audio analysis, he would find out that the voice pattern is similar but different.
As the human voice is like a fingerprint. However you have million of people who have similar voices. Just alone because the range of female and male voices is naturally limited.
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Post by cobracommander on Apr 28, 2015 20:52:55 GMT
No it is not Sargents voice. It is similar yes, but intonation and speed is different. And even if it was Sargent voice, what exactly does it proove? Would it be a problem if someone like Sargent is a voice actor and was offered the job to speek this role? Sargent commented on this in one of his interviews. Made sense what he said concerning this. You can look up at the film database who spoke that role and it is a hollywood actor. So what is the point? I dont get the fuss about it. P.S: I am pretty sure if there is someone in the community who has the means to do audio analysis, he would find out that the voice pattern is similar but different. As the human voice is like a fingerprint. However you have million of people who have similar voices. Just alone because the range of female and male voices is naturally limited. Im not only talking about the voice, but I will touch on why they are using MarkVII Chief Master Sargent and Key, and what it represents in the Flat Earth Truth/Truth. I encourage everybody to watch my last 3 videos of where I progress and make sense of the clues. Acenci my video. Click my name on YouTube and watch the ones labeled Mark Sargent and "They all hate to break it to me", where I called the Johnathan M. (The Mark Sargent radio cohost) connection before he mentioned ever calling Mark. I have the means to do audio analysis. I've been recording and producing music on the underground scene for about 20 years. Quite simply, Key is the voice double. The dude gets paid to impersonate people on TV. I will publicly tie both Mark Sargent and Key to the Halo 5 main characters, and RedsilverJ aka TeamWakeEmUp. |
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Post by LIT on Apr 29, 2015 9:55:08 GMT
cobracommanderYour research is quite interesting. However, what do you think the ultimate goal is? Why would anyone need to do that? Any ideas?
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Post by tinfoilhatgirl on Apr 29, 2015 11:18:54 GMT
First, I dont agree it is Sargents voice. Similar yes, but not the same.
Second, CobraCommander, one thing you could learn from Mark Sargent is get the facts straight that you want to deliver when you make a video and come to the point.
I did take the time and watch your three videos on that issue and I would not say that they have any clear message what you exactly want to say. What is it that you object to?
I dont know I dont get it and honestly I am not so much interested. Because you lost me already. You had your chance for audience and you failed.
If you say people should watch your videos then make videos that are WORTH WATCHING. And not such a shaky messy bla bla stuff, sorry, I say it directly like that.
That is waste of time for me and I am not interested in wasting any more to some more shillophobia. I wonder what you folks get out of that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 11:54:00 GMT
Hello, everyone, please let us not go in the same direction as IFERS and belittle anyone's efforts, research and opinions. Here we don't really know yet what "verbal abuse" is, but let us not go in the same direction as Eric and his three hardcore fans. We can express disagreement without belittling anyone's opinions. "I respectfully disagree with your opinion" is better than "your opinion is nonsense". The meaning is the same, but the difference is that you are still respecting the person you disagree with.
Remember: the worse we treat each other, the less we have a reason to exist as a forum. If people want verbal abuse they can go to IFERS, and if they want to be ridiculed, they can go to TFES. We wanted to be different.
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Post by LIT on Apr 29, 2015 12:52:40 GMT
flat earth truthIf you're referring to tinfoilhatgirl's comment, I think it is absolutely fine if someone expressed their opinion. Everyone has their own style of disagreeing, it is a bit too much to ask people to rephrase what they say just because you don't like it. Let at least the person who the comment was for to say something. Maybe they don't mind the tone. Anyway, the comment is valid. What is the point to suggest something is a conspiracy when you don't explain the reasons behind it?
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Post by cobracommander on Apr 29, 2015 13:05:38 GMT
First, I dont agree it is Sargents voice. Similar yes, but not the same. Second, CobraCommander, one thing you could learn from Mark Sargent is get the facts straight that you want to deliver when you make a video and come to the point. I did take the time and watch your three videos on that issue and I would not say that they have any clear message what you exactly want to say. What is it that you object to? I dont know I dont get it and honestly I am not so much interested. Because you lost me already. You had your chance for audience and you failed. If you say people should watch your videos then make videos that are WORTH WATCHING. And not such a shaky messy bla bla stuff, sorry, I say it directly like that. That is waste of time for me and I am not interested in wasting any more to some more shillophobia. I wonder what you folks get out of that. Learn from Mark Sargent and get the facts straight? Do you mean like come out and say the dome is holographic? How about say we fired nukes at the dome even though nukes just might not exist nor have real proof that they fired anything at a dome? Catch my drift? The Halo Hunt the Truth marketing campaign is "The Real Flat Earth Clues". The Flat Earth Clues videos are coded with Easter Eggs, as is Hunt the Truth. I'm not calling them shills... They are Corporate Truthers. They most likely have good intentions with this. I'll show everybody as much as I can, and I think as a team, us "Internet Hivemind" can put the puzzle together that helps our Hunt for the Truth go public to a very large group of people. That's what I believe their goal is here. I've got so much more already. Haha! |
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Post by cobracommander on Apr 29, 2015 13:24:41 GMT
cobracommanderYour research is quite interesting. However, what do you think the ultimate goal is? Why would anyone need to do that? Any ideas? Thanks. I'll share with you what I told acenci... i don't believe Mark Sargent is a disinfo shill. My feeling is that Mark Sargent is a Marketing campaign for Flat Earth. Pun intended. Think about the governments just coming out and admitting they lied overnight... It would be total chaos. This post of mine to Scott Merrow in Cae sar's comments pretty much sums up my thoughts... +scott merrow That was my immediate response, but after thinking things over, this may very well be them transitioning into admitting the truth. If they come straight out and admit to all the lies, people will flip out. If you use media to regain trust in the media, the transition will go much smoother. Another marketing campaign for the transition is possibly going to be centered around Star Wars The Force Awakens (Another number 7 btw), which is going to be about a mass awakening. If people caught the message in the new Star Wars trailer, Luke says his family is strong in the force, "and you have that power too", meaning us. I'm not completely certain on that one like the Halo campaign. It's just a hunch that I may elaborate on down the road. |
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Post by LIT on Apr 29, 2015 14:02:25 GMT
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Post by cobracommander on Apr 29, 2015 20:02:23 GMT
This is going to get more and more interesting. I'm so certain that Mark Sargent is connected to Halo 5 that I'd bet my car title. I'd even throw in the keys to my house! Haha! Now that I've figured out how to play their game, I'm going to teach everybody how to find the clues. I find a new clue everyday. I threw out a teaser clue in a post here already. |
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Post by tinfoilhatgirl on Apr 29, 2015 21:23:23 GMT
What I meant with getting your facts straight is, finally make up your mind about what you want to come out with and do it properly with a clear thread of thought. Which you didnt, I checked your videos as I am generally interested to learn everyones theory about some folks out there in the FE community. And it is just good advice that if you want the people to listen to you, then you better dont turn them off with vague videos that dont come to the point because they wont listen when you finally get to your point. As far as I see your announcement that you will come up with some blasting news about the background behind the Sargent story was going on for a week or two already on IFERS. Now you go on with announcements what you are going to reveal and you got to understand that if you just talk about your clues instead of finally bringing them up for good, people will shrug it off and turn away. Thats all. Considering your theory that it might be a big campaign about to reveal the truth to the masses - that resonates with me. I read the storyline of Halo on Wikipedia and it has parallels to the YellowRoseForTexas stuff which I am very interested in recently. More than into Flat Earth. Because Flat Earth is just a side effect of the whole story for YRFT. It is about a war going on to rescue us from the imprisonment here on fake Earth where we have been captured by a parasitic alien race. So here is a big parallel to the storyline of Halo. Regarding YRFT the war has been going on between the Allied Forces (Bloodfathers in Halo?) that are coming to rescue mankind from the enslavement which is against the galactic law (Halo: Bloodfathers are the guards of galatic life) and the parasites have lost the war. The matrix is going to unravel soon because the parasites have been captured, more and more people are awakening and seeing signs and when this happens that the matrix collapses mankind will regain access to their true nature which you also mention in your post about Luke Skywalker "The power lies in you" about the "mass awakening". Maybe you take a look into YRFT, here is the most comprehensive video on her theory: It is a bit long, a bit complex on first sight, but it is quite interesting and might support your own theory about what is going on with Sargent and a plan to reveal the truth to the masses just because they HAVE to because it is their only way to again manipulate the masses to feed them THEIR story instead of the truth, the total truth. They might have come to the conclusion they have to reveal parts of the truth and maybe go on with trying to hide ALL of the truth. And I promise I will take another try when you come up with your own comprehensive theory....but you can do better than before, "the power lies in you"  D'accord? |
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Post by cobracommander on Apr 29, 2015 22:59:36 GMT
What I meant with getting your facts straight is, finally make up your mind about what you want to come out with and do it properly with a clear thread of thought. Which you didnt, I checked your videos as I am generally interested to learn everyones theory about some folks out there in the FE community. And it is just good advice that if you want the people to listen to you, then you better dont turn them off with vague videos that dont come to the point because they wont listen when you finally get to your point. As far as I see your announcement that you will come up with some blasting news about the background behind the Sargent story was going on for a week or two already on IFERS. Now you go on with announcements what you are going to reveal and you got to understand that if you just talk about your clues instead of finally bringing them up for good, people will shrug it off and turn away. Thats all. Considering your theory that it might be a big campaign about to reveal the truth to the masses - that resonates with me. I read the storyline of Halo on Wikipedia and it has parallels to the YellowRoseForTexas stuff which I am very interested in recently. More than into Flat Earth. Because Flat Earth is just a side effect of the whole story for YRFT. It is about a war going on to rescue us from the imprisonment here on fake Earth where we have been captured by a parasitic alien race. So here is a big parallel to the storyline of Halo. Regarding YRFT the war has been going on between the Allied Forces (Bloodfathers in Halo?) that are coming to rescue mankind from the enslavement which is against the galactic law (Halo: Bloodfathers are the guards of galatic life) and the parasites have lost the war. The matrix is going to unravel soon because the parasites have been captured, more and more people are awakening and seeing signs and when this happens that the matrix collapses mankind will regain access to their true nature which you also mention in your post about Luke Skywalker "The power lies in you" about the "mass awakening". Maybe you take a look into YRFT, here is the most comprehensive video on her theory: It is a bit long, a bit complex on first sight, but it is quite interesting and might support your own theory about what is going on with Sargent and a plan to reveal the truth to the masses just because they HAVE to because it is their only way to again manipulate the masses to feed them THEIR story instead of the truth, the total truth. They might have come to the conclusion they have to reveal parts of the truth and maybe go on with trying to hide ALL of the truth. And I promise I will take another try when you come up with your own comprehensive theory....but you can do better than before, "the power lies in you" D'accord? Im not really throwing out theories. It's more like I'm throwing out clues so people see that FE Clues and Hunt the Truth go hand in hand. For the resources I have to make a video right now, I feel I've done a pretty good job of pointing out the connections without having a computer to use at the moment... Except for all the uh's I said. I kept everything pretty simple and got right to the points. For a Halo fan, the armor name and rank of Master Chief is common knowledge. What you speak of about Ifers, I was responding when replied to. I put some Easter Eggs out there in my responses though, like I have here. That's just me. If somebody responds, I have the common courtesy to reply back... Like now. |
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Post by heathen on Apr 29, 2015 23:38:55 GMT
I thought Mark's plan to have people talk to influential people in their communities instead it being a "grass roots" campaign was interesting. It came to my mind, possibly from reading a post by cobracommmander. I always thought that was smart of Mark to do rather than try to tell everyone and hope something happens. It was something that stood out to me when he encouraged that.
I don't know what he is doing exactly either. There's a theory that Aliens (either fake or demonic) will tell us they created us in the future. I wonder about that when Mark talks about the Dome Builders and living in a planetarium.
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Post by heathen on Apr 30, 2015 1:15:43 GMT
It does sound like his voice. It is slightly different, maybe younger sounding. But I am sure they get voice actors and alter the voice as well.
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Post by cobracommander on Apr 30, 2015 3:17:16 GMT
It does sound like his voice. It is slightly different, maybe younger sounding. But I am sure they get voice actors and alter the voice as well. The other voice is Keegan Michael Key, whom has starred on Mad TV and Key & Peele, which on both shows he had to do a lot of impersonations. The 2 different but similar characters mirrors the storyline they are laying out leading up to the launch of Halo 5 in October. The new main character happens to be named Locke. So, you have a voice actor named Key, and a new main character in Halo named Locke. You have the overarching main character named Master Chief who wears the MarkVII armor and is a Sargent in rank, and a voice actor named Mark Sargent. You now have 2 people who admittedly work in the video game industry, and correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Mark have a voices.com profile for doing voice work? Oh man, there is so much that this is going to take me a while to finish. Add to that me finding something new every single day, and this is going to go on and on. I might have to rent a computer for a month till I fix mine. I need help!!! Haha! That's why I was so happy to see Cae sar making connections to Flat Earth and Halo. When I get to really tossing the clues out to everybody, I may not be able to reply much till I'm complete. |
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Post by zero11s on Apr 30, 2015 4:28:21 GMT
I thought Mark's plan to have people talk to influential people in their communities instead it being a "grass roots" campaign was interesting. It came to my mind, possibly from reading a post by cobracommmander. I always thought that was smart of Mark to do rather than try to tell everyone and hope something happens. It was something that stood out to me when he encouraged that. He just wants to lure you so that other people view you as a total conspiracy nut. |
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Post by heathen on Apr 30, 2015 4:36:36 GMT
Haha, maybe so. But I think most change happens from the top down.
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Post by tinfoilhatgirl on Apr 30, 2015 8:36:34 GMT
Marks idea to spread the FE theory by indirect questions to some "leaders" is well meant but doesnt work for me.
1. I dont know anyone in the resource industry to call them and ask why they dont go to Antarctica to mine there. Imagine you call an oil company for example and ask to talk to the CEO and then as a nobody you propose them they should really start to drill in Antarctica. You really think they will let you through to anyone who is in the power to make these decisions and if so, they take advice from a caller they dont know who is oh so clever to give them good advice where to make money and how to do their job. Not really.
2. I am not connected to church people. And even if I went to anyone of them then they are church people on the lower ladder who will talk to you and then give you some nice advice what you could do to find some inner peace. Pray more for example. Church people nowadays are just mostly corrupt like anyone else, they want to have their peace of mind do their job and not be bothered and not start any turmoil in their community or within their colleagues.
3. I am in the Northern hemisphere and I have no one flying in the southern hemisphere and even if so I would not know whom to call who is in charge to explain to me why my family is not monitored on flights in the Southern Hemisphere. They will just tell you we use GPS and have to take it they way it is, we should be happy that there is GPS at all, if there are flaws we should hope that they will be fixed in the future as research and progress always goes on...
Concerning your videos, cobracommander:
You have the group that is familiar with the Flat Earth idea and you have the group that is familiar with Halo game. You will have just few people who are familiar with both.
Again, that is what I mean when I say you have to make up your mind before you make a video. You have to think from the perspective of your audience and fetch them from THEIR point of knowledge. You cannot expect them to know what is common knowledge in the Halo game. And that is what M. Sargent did better than anyone else in the FE community (except from "My Perspective maybe, but that is just my personal opinion). He thought carefully about where to start and offer the audience a track of thought they can easily follow and so get HIS message out. Win win situation for both parties. That is why the FE clues are popular as an introduction to the Flat Earth Theory. From there the folks are either interested and can go on with other sources or they are closed-minded anyway and will reject any of that "unscientific conspiracy stuff".
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Post by LIT on Apr 30, 2015 9:08:30 GMT
tinfoilhatgirlI understand your enthusiasm and appreciation of Mark's work, but can't you see its deficiencies? It is mostly disinformation. It is not an introduction into the Flat Earth Theory, because the evidence provided is all made up. I am not really sure why people still buy that classic flat Earth model, when it is not any better than Zhib's model with the South Pole in the center. Just because someone presents lies well doesn't mean he does a good thing. It would be much better if people focused on the facts and tried to always stick to them instead of letting their imagination cloud their judgment.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 9:15:48 GMT
Maybe to us you are imagining your facts, just as to you we are imagining ours. Your opinion is equal to the truth just to yourself. The same applies to all of our opinions on what the facts are. The difference is that I make sure to say "I disagree with you", instead of saying "you are imagining things and not sticking to facts".
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Post by tinfoilhatgirl on Apr 30, 2015 11:39:18 GMT
Are we in the Mark Sargent thread or the Billy Jones alias Alex Hicks thread?
@lit: This mixing of topics also fits to your comment. I dont know what you are talking about! I am not about spreading enthusiasm over Mark Sargents videos. And my latest comments dont deal with that. I have actually quite some points where I disagree with Mark Sargent. But totally independent from what his special opinion is on Flat Earth and whether he has proof or not I was talking about his METHOD to tell his point of view to his audience which is successful if you like it or not. Because he put some thought on what to say in what order and spent some thought on the potential audience and their potential standing point to begin from there.
And that is what I am recommending to all others out there who are now picking for whatever reasons on Mark Sargent and maybe the fact that he is invited to a lot of interviews. There IS clearly some personal jealousy involved here I think. And to those who want to be heard with their stuff I recommend they take a closer look at THEIR OWN approach of delivering their views to the audience. There is potential to do it better.
This is my point in regard of cobracommander. His findings may be valid! But he does not do himself and his effort to find these links a favor if he thinks that the folks are eager on hunting HIS "easter eggs" that he is planning to drop here and there. Really, come on! With all the stuff I currently run across for research and dismanteling lies that I may have fallen to I really dont have the time and dont feel like I need to chase someones clues on whatever theory they might have on their mind. If they come up with some solid material that I can either watch as video or read - I will take the time, fine. If not - I dont care!! There is other stuff to concentrate on!
And I dont have to discuss with you whether I think that Sargents videos are a good introduction to Flat Earth or not. To ME they were. Period the end. Doesnt mean that I automatically take all of his views as mine, it is just a starting point to get interested in questioning the shape of the earth. Nothing more nothing less. I am still on my journey to make up my mind which model resonates the most with me. There are different type of thinkers. Those who always need undisputable facts, the more realistic fact orientated thinkers and those who are the emotional thinkers and listen more to what feels right, what resonates to them. They need a bit of a push or an eye-opener to go on travelling in a certain direction. And to me M.Sargent gave this push and until now we dont know whether he has any other intention than this. That is why I am not so much interested if people think he is a shill or not. His FE clues brought me on this path and this is generally a good thing in my eyes. Now I will see where it takes me down the road.
Maybe there will come more light into this question if there are other intentions behind M. Sargent when cobracommander gets his stuff together and presents it in a comprehensive way.
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Post by LIT on Apr 30, 2015 11:51:30 GMT
Are we in the Mark Sargent thread or the Billy Jones alias Alex Hicks thread? @lit: This mixing of topics also fits to your comment. Indeed. I have posted my comment in the wrong thread. I moved my post to the thread about Alex Jones. |
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Post by Gr8Believer on Apr 30, 2015 12:13:38 GMT
I think someone should ask Sargent if he is a mason. During one of his videos he said that Richard Byrd was amazon not that make any difference.
I think it would make a lot of difference considering that it is a secret organization with secrets to hide. Besides most politicians are high level masons with a hidden agenda.
How does one confirm whether someone is a mason or not?
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The Dubay is going to freak out 
