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Post by Raphael on Jun 20, 2017 3:01:03 GMT
SO...in keeping with "The Firmament...is NO DOME!" purpose of this thread, let's look at this: "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the OPEN Firmament of Heaven." Genesis 1:20 Could the use of the word "OPEN" here mean open as OPPOSED to closed. The portion of the Firmament that is OPEN, i.e. The AIR, as opposed to the CLOSED portion of the Firmament where the sun moon and stars reside. I have read this verse hundreds of times, and after we have been chatting about the Firmament this stood out to me. Thoughts?? lion are you still a member, how can I contact you by email or whatever? |
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Post by Pastor comer on Jul 29, 2017 2:28:58 GMT
It's wonderful that u all have started to find the truth!! Yes there's a firmament above the earth! The gov has been going out of its way to keep all none secret personnel! The general public!!! Completely in the dark! We all have a duty to our Lord God to spread the truth to all who will except it!! Let's stand together my brothers and sisters!!!
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Post by Believer in all. on Aug 15, 2017 18:21:23 GMT
It's wonderful that u all have started to find the truth!! Yes there's a firmament above the earth! The gov has been going out of its way to keep all none secret personnel! The general public!!! Completely in the dark! We all have a duty to our Lord God to spread the truth to all who will except it!! Let's stand together my brothers and sisters!!! *Accept, not except. Not to come off a certain way, but there is much hypocrisy in here. You are all making claims about researchers which are not based in subjective experience at all. You guys (specifically Jess) speak of a field you know nothing about. Is the original claiming that the sun and the moon are still part of the physical expansive universe? Furthermore, that physical expanded universe is PART of the firmament? Sounds like symbolic interpretation of something beyond human spiritual comprehension. Furthermore, the second heaven above the firmament, in science terms, is the waters above the universe that the researchers overlook. You guys do not have the stance to make a claim when you don't understand how research works. Those waters above the firmament/expansive universe ARE being studied. In fact, it is essentially what researchers are trying to understand. We are ALL looking at this through interpretative keyholes. We are all trying to explain and understand the higher power and collective that governs existence. You all are making false claims and claiming fact to be, which is exactly what researchers seem to be accused of. With all love and fustration it is complete hypocrisy. The only fact here is that we are ALL trying to understand the same thing. The bible, religion, philosophy, quantum physics, mythology, they all are simply ways of explaining something we are not spiritually evolved enough to understand. Everyone here is right. Everyone here is wrong. Philosophers and scientists are right. And they are wrong. We ALL are right. Just using different language and symbolic interpretive techniques to understand the spiritual force that created the universe. The the Big Bang IS CREATIONISM. It's just different explained and studied in different languages. The spiritual conscious experience unifies everything with the ONE. All interpretations and forms of study shed light on the truth. The bible somehow claims the symbolic conscious will of creating all dimensions in all their is. Science studies the tanglible aspects by creating a human, numerical language to understand it in three dimensions. Philosophy breaks the barriers. Spirituality brings us closer to our root soul, and where our soul comes from. You guy say Praise the Lord. I say, Praise Life. Praise the Universe. Praise Existence! Everyone.Is.Right and is self validated in the field. It's understandable how you all may invalidate it. Science doesnt discredit your beliefs, it tries to explain them in a physics based language. You can be 100% in belief of both. Do not listen to those who tell you there is no way. We are all free to explore existence, and again..we are all right.  |
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