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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 29, 2015 18:30:12 GMT
90 degree turns on a sphere would make a triangle with 3 lines. Now this has never been done but is cited as evidence for a globe by those that pretend they know what they're talking about. Naturally if the Earth was flat and you theoretically drew the same lines, you would end up with a square over distance. The issue here is, the OP is saying that if he draws his lines at 90 degrees over a small area, then he will either make a potential square from 3 points and by marrying up the first and last points, it would make a perfect square and thus proving a flat Earth. Or he can make the 3 points which will not marry up to make a square and would be skewed by a good few feet difference, meaning the Earth would favour a globe model. To be totally honest, I think this would be best done on a frozen lake. Very well said. |
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 29, 2015 18:28:52 GMT
It's not missin. It's just very small.
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 29, 2015 16:53:57 GMT
Sigh what? You can't draw a square on a ball. With 90 degree angles you'll never walk a square on a ball earth. That's what the guy is trying to experiment. |
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 29, 2015 16:34:34 GMT
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 29, 2015 16:17:50 GMT
Yes but he wants to prove that and had an idea about walking a square.  Can you see? |
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 29, 2015 15:26:29 GMT
 The boat goes up and down thru the waves. But does a island have movement? And a building, is it floating as the boat to go up and down? |
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 29, 2015 15:12:06 GMT
And if you watch the boat video you will notice that he remains "sunk" even when he goes on top of the waves... a very weird and freaky optical effect.
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 29, 2015 15:08:20 GMT
My point is that the waves, cause this "sinking boat" efect on any distant image. It happened to this boat( that's even not in the horizon), and it happens to islands and other distant stuff when we look and zoom in the horizon.
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 29, 2015 15:01:06 GMT
I understood it. It's something like this: You canot put a square paper on a ball's surface.
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 29, 2015 14:47:07 GMT
The thing is: I don't know these other heights (1) and (2). I believe we are seeing the whole 80 meters of this island+lighthouse. And the others part's are way more little in height.  Anyway I will try to do other experiments with this 24Xzoom-camera... If I had a 200X zoom could bring way better results... Again the waves can play many tricks on us... Optical ilusions The sinking boat:  |
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 29, 2015 14:02:46 GMT
Observe this boat in this video, he seems to be under sea level but it's just a ilusion caused by the waves.  The island I was talking about.  |
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 28, 2015 13:50:45 GMT
You will need to expand a bit on what you are wanting. Lasers just involve light too. A telescope and a laser are going to be subject to the same kind of errors due to atmospheric distortions. What do you mean by a linear measurement? >>I can see at 1m above sea level a island that is 15 miles away here where I live...with the naked eye! Are you saying you are 1m above sea level or the island is one meter above sea level? We need to know how high you are and how high the island is when you see the island. I am 1m above sea level. The island is tall, but I don't know exactly it's height, I could not found this information anywhere. But I will manage to take a picture of that when I can. You are right, I think lasers lights can still trick us. So I was thinking of using the laser not to cover great distances, but short distances - like 1 mile and then measure the angle of incidence on the upwards "stick". If it's possible. It' would be something similar to the rectilineator... I posting this idea here, so maybe someone can have a insight on how to do this in a better way, or even make this experiment because I will have to travel to do it... But maybe someone here already lives near a proper "flat'' area to do it. |
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 28, 2015 13:06:01 GMT
Thanks acenci. That's the kind of guy I can ask for information... I will try to contact him |
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 28, 2015 13:00:53 GMT
I can see at 1m above sea level a island that is 15 miles away here where I live...with the naked eye! Your response did not help the experiment. I don't want to depend on optical ilusions on my experiment. I want to do a linear measurement of earth's level. If you have any sugestion to such a expermiment, you will help, but if you want to stay discussing optical evidence (that can trick us), it's not usefull |
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 27, 2015 22:38:48 GMT
Check this out!
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 27, 2015 22:03:52 GMT
I think we can not use as a ultimate truth argument some old experiments like the "bedford channel" and the rectilineator. We must do them again! I am trying to figure out a kind of "rectilineator" experiment to do on a very long beach... Something like this:  I was thinking on measuring the varying angles along the distance. A simple topographic experiment... I was also thinking that something in this likeness could be acomplished using a theodolite... What do you think? Any suggestions on how could it work out the best way possible? |
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 27, 2015 21:24:06 GMT
"Anyway the biggest problem you have with the observations of for example Chicago is that Chicago is surrounded by hills."
"If the earth is flat those hills would be visible behind between the towers." - LIE
Everything go "down" in the vanishing point. So goes the sun and the hills...
Hey Acenci, this aliveandkicking guy is clever, but read his arguments carefully...
If something with no suficient height is visible beyond the "round earth's horizon" at sea level. It's a great evidence for the earth being a plane.
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 27, 2015 20:30:35 GMT
Have you seen this video here? Seems to me something solid is there that the meteor crashed into...? Wait, is it something coming from above or a missil-like-thing from below? I really can't tell It remembered me the "Independence day" movie... |
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 15, 2015 18:43:05 GMT
Yes. the earth has 4 geograhic corners. According to the Bible earth = dryland. In this north-centered flat earth map we can see that the corners of the dryland are real... The shouthern parts of South america, africa, Australia and Pacific Islands (Easter Island). *There this legends about an ancient continent called MU or Lemuria and it just fits perfectly the 4 corners description.  |
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 15, 2015 13:42:24 GMT
This moving light dots can only be defined as UFOs, no one can affirm 100% sure is a plane or satelite... I saw a similar UFO another day in my backyard... It was gettin dark an stars were beginning to apear at the sky... I was talking to my friend and then a very bright star seemed to "pop up" at that moment and called my atention, but as I looked at it, the light began to go weaker and weaker till it became a very little moving white dot, it moved for a few seconds to the southwest and vanished... What was that? I have no idea.
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 15, 2015 13:06:31 GMT
Maybe a rocket can move in space vacuum... but wait: So everytime a volcano explodes here the earth acelerates thru the vacum? And when a "solar explosion" occur the sun moves like a rocket? Everytime a asteroid hits the moon the moon moves a little bit? Hahah this heliocentric ballshit universe would be crushed already. Everyday I learn it's all a big fantasy we lived together, folks... WE DON'T NEED TO ARGUE THIS SUBJECT... BECAUSE FREE SPACE DOESN'T EXIST. IF THERE IS A VACUUM IT'S A ENCLOSED VACUUM INSIDE THE FIRMAMENT MEMBRANE, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO A HUMAM MADE LAB VACUUM...
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 15, 2015 12:41:32 GMT
Hey brother Lion,
"And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places." Revelation 6:14
There must be something to be rolled like a scroll.
"It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a CURTAIN, and spreadeth them out as a TENT to dwell in:" Isaiah 40:22
I still can not see how would there be a vacuum if no rigid or semi-rigid material (Tent/Curtain tissue) membrane is between the Waters and the waters.
I ask again is this Ocean above h2O, or is another kind of water??
That's why I think the nasa (satan inspired) still has hope of invading the Heavens with rockets / missils (with reinforced material in the nose)... Because a "Tent" like membrane is possible to be crossed; but a glass like material would be more difficult to go thru, rockets would just blow up when they hit it.
What is the firmament that encloses the ground? (antartica? / northern regions? / other?)
*Do you think there is no membrane on the edges? It's just ice, ice mountains and then a vacuum? Or it's water, then a vacuum limiting it?
Also there are this occult message in movies like "truman show" "dark city" "The simpsons"... a TV series which people got enclosed by a misterious rigid "dome"...
I still believe there must be a Membrane up there (above all the stars) and in the "edges" enclosing everything. That's also what makes these arrogant rebels angry the most, because they are trapped in and can't leave!
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 15, 2015 11:49:06 GMT
 Lit, In my opinion when we Zoom in with a camera, is a different thing that going there to the place where the object is. When we zoom in we just aproximate (enlarge) the image we are already seeing. That's why a ship or a cliff continues to be "under" the horizon line. or vanishing point. That's why after the sunset we won't never get the sun back with camera zooming or telescope. "Zooming in" can not change the vanishing point position from our perspective. "Zooming in" cannot recover the BLINDSPOTS of our composed image. |
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 13, 2015 20:20:26 GMT
Hey Lion, Understood. And what do you understand about verses like this: "Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, as a molten looking glass?" Job 37:18 ? How would their exist only a vacuum between the atmosphere and the Heavenly Sea? Is this Heavenly Sea, H2O? Down here in labs we need a glass structure to make a vaccuum inside... How do you understand the "Windows of Heaven" and "Fountains of the Deep" in flood's accounts? I can only imagine there must be this "glass" like structure in between the Second and the Third Heaven.... and there are also the windows of the flood.   |
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 13, 2015 18:35:08 GMT
thanksss
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 13, 2015 17:34:53 GMT
Haha Aha, I see, good catch! I have to go deeper into this nuke subject... I also doubt the nukes, can you provide some good studys on it?
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 13, 2015 16:20:22 GMT
This is a pesonal interpretation, but I'm exposing so we can think about together, I'm also open to think about yours interpretation. I see this verse shows us how the material things (mountains) react in His presence. The material creation can not handle His Spiritual Glory (Radiance). All material objects just literally melts (before the firmament existance, earth was without form and void). So there must be a "protective layer" to separate the Dwelling place of God (Glorious Plane), from this material / dense plane. Inside the firmament the material things can be "organized" by the Word of the Lord. As He Reigns Supreme up there in a plane which we cannot see with this physical eyes or go with the physical vehicle (body). Our body is limited, as the material creation is also limited. Our cognition can not imagine how Heaven is, and our unclean "animal" body can not go up there. Only miraculously (You see Christ's body was behaving differently after the ressurection, he was able to appear and disapear to the apostles.) The Throne of the Lord, being above the earth, right? So I believe the creation is under Him, inside this limiting thing, called firmament, that separates the Waters from the waters. We can't see or reach nothing that is above the firmament.
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 13, 2015 15:57:52 GMT
If there are real nukes, I think it's possible that at some point, these guys will try to nuke or bomb the firmament.
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 13, 2015 15:14:36 GMT
Lion, I wanted so much that we could read the scriptures in Aramaic, so we could have a truer understanding of the words used by the prophets to describe the cosmos. I see no reason to say , we are not in a enclosed system. I totally believe this plane is enclosed, by a protectiv "dome" or something like that. Psalm 97:5 "The mountains melt like wax before the LORD" Everything that is material must be protected from His Glory, and the material things are not allowed to go to the Heavens (Pass the firmament). See also this post here: serendipitous.boards.net/thread/100/big-fornicationBlessings |
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 13, 2015 14:16:29 GMT
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