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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 12, 2015 18:43:24 GMT
New video about this... I'm gonna watch it know.
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 9, 2015 19:32:33 GMT
The firmament is both a protection and also the reason why we must have FAITH (can not see what's beyond, with the physical eyes).
As gravity is this Spiritual repelativ force of material objects:
Revelation 20:11 "And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them."
For a material creation to exist, there must be a firmament (like a glass in a human lab experiment) in order to keep the chemical elements isolated, and to create (by His will), organized material forms with them... finally creating a material enviroment inside of it (wich simulates the laws of spirtual world such as density orders, the famous as above so below? - ... gas <> liquid <> solid...). An enviroment of course, capable of maintaining creatures, material life forms.
And...
Psalm 97:5 "The mountains melt like wax before the LORD"
- Also to protect the material little fragile things and creatures, from the Giant Radiant Glory of the True Light Source/ Greatest Spirit/ Eternal Creator.
- So with the existance of the firmament, and the incapability of our bodys and eyes (we can't barely even look straight at the sun) to resist the Radiance of the Spiritual Reality.
It's a must for we, the man (in this material body, looking at the external world) to walk by FAITH, when it comes to the Spiritual World. Cause it's "hidden" for us above the firmament.
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Another deeper conclusions...
The spiritual reality is at the same time in the very "outside" and very "Inside" from our minds perspective, or physical sight / thought capability!
In other words: The firmament is at the same time the limit for our cognizing capacity. It is a reflection to our mind's perception internal limit! (It's related to the fact that we can NOT control like 99% of our body functions, it is controled by the Almighty Spirit)
1 Corinthians 2:9
"But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him."
No one can tell what is there or how the Heaven is really like.
Our Creator is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent Spirit. So He is at the same time "in", "out","above", "below" everything.
Conclusion: The earth's outer firmament is our inner cognitiv limit's projection. (limited by the Most High). And there is inimaginable Spiritual reality beyond it.
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 9, 2015 19:07:49 GMT
Some thoughts that came to my mind recently:
"The firmament is both a protection and also the reason why we must have FAITH (can not see what's beyond, with the physical eyes).
As gravity is this Spiritual repelativ force of material objects.
Revelation 20:11 "And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them."
For a material creation to exist, there must be a firmament (like a glass in a human lab experiment) in order to keep the chemical elements isolated, and to create (by His will), organized material forms with them... finally creating a material enviroment inside of it (wich simulates the laws of density of the Spirtual world, the famous as above so below? - ... gas <> liquid <> solid...). An enviroment of course, capable of maintaining creatures, material life forms.
And...
Psalm 97:5 "The mountains melt like wax before the LORD"
- Also to protect the material little fragile things and creatures, from the Giant Radiant Glory of the True Light Source/ Greatest Spirit/ Eternal Creator.
- So with the existance of the firmament, and the incapability of our bodys and eyes (we can't barely even look straight at the sun) to resist the Radiance of the Spiritual Reality.
It's a must for we, humans (in this material body, looking at the external world) to walk by FAITH, when it comes to the Spiritual World. Cause it's "hidden" for us above the firmament.
The spiritual reality is at the same time in the very "outside" and very "Inside" from our minds perspective, or physical sight / thought capability!
In other words: The firmament is at the same time the limit for our cognizing capacity. It is a reflection to our mind's perception internal limit! (It's related to the fact that we can NOT control like 99% of our body functions, it is controled by the Almighty Spirit)
1 Corinthians 2:9 "But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him."
No one can tell what is or how the Heaven is really like. "
It's total out of our cognitive limit. Wich physically turns to be the outer firmament or firmaments...
Inimaginable spiritual reality is beyond the "Dome".
BTW... Yes, the flat earth knowledge can destroy the devil's plans, but only if it reaches all people. Prophecy says that in these times there will be plenty of people being decieved... So, we must work hard to bring everyone we can into the Truth. We are fisherman.
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 9, 2015 18:44:36 GMT
Hey,
In "the truman show" movie, the flat earth "edge" is in the ocean. Maybe there is a occult clue on this... In Zhib's map seem to be more in sincronity with the "truman" version that the firmament meets directly with the water.
But I personally think the "antartica" is full of misterious things going on... It seems to make more sense to be the outer part. Wouldn't the "artic firmament" be more easy to discover, since many ships and planes travel around there? Also more people live around there.
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 9, 2015 16:12:20 GMT
The first video is pretty spot on. I think the second video, is the best explanation... It's the same as I tried to illustrate on the image I posted. I could not get the demonstration at Zhib's video... hahah
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 9, 2015 15:54:40 GMT
My question is: If any of this guys realize something is wrong about some aspects of their flat earth model, or conspiracy theorys or spiritual beliefs, will they apologize, and change their teachings? Are they capable of REPENTACE? because if not, they are just going down the psycho-way... And you, brothas? Well, I am.
I'm afraid Eric beggining to get famous on this subject, can fall a victim to this "fear of admiting error" psycho atitude... in order words trapped by his Ego/image's status, he will mantain and follow blindy the same ideology till the end, even when he notices something is wrong with it...
I hope is not the case.
Because the soul that becomes famous, can be very tempted...
You know... When someone speaks against the rulers, life is at risk, and so the "fear" become to be more present...
leading one PARANOID
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 9, 2015 15:25:54 GMT
Some points *Take it as a spiritual peaceful path:
- Be righteous.
*being no egoist, or liar, we will not behave like the enemy.
- Don't believe in the mainstream media.
- Learn to let go some material pleasures as a sacrifice.
- Continue working on our jobs and the things we like, no problem, but if we realize it's contributing to evil be not afraid to change.
- Consume new things that are usefull for the survival of the physical body:
Healthy food/ water. (personally I think the diet should be vegetarian, conscious that the animal killing industry is terrible)
Clothes. (use till they rip apart/ donate the old and excessive ones)
Shelter. (houses or apartments that are truly proportional to our needs).
*Observe how many big houses there are, with few people inside. And so many homeless people in the streets. It should not be so, and it's possible to change that through our present actions.
- Decrease maximum the consume of drugs (pharmaceutical industry).
- Stop consuming useless new material things, that are not usefull for the maintenance of the physical body. If you really need these sort of things, you should buy used stuff.
*This will decrease the "rhythm" of industries, garbage polution, and our material consuming addiction.
- Use our free will wisely.
*Always pay very attention in the products that we buy, cause in truth it is the people who decide what's is going to be produced by the companies. (They can only produce and sell, what's going to be bought by us).
- Consume less energy (eletricity/fuel). (Wars happen because of this stuff...)
- Use an alternative non-polluting means of transport such as cycling and skateboarding or use public transport.
- Try to keep the family members (can be faith-brothers also) together under the same roof or land, with love, of course... cause so it will be cheaper to pay the house expenses; everybody helping each other, like a community.
*remember the system wants to separate people and families, while its rulers inter marry and keep their bloodlines, guess why?
*By doing it we will see there's plenty of money left in the end of the month.
(because poverty is a ilusion created by the conditioned materialistic way of thinking. True material wealth: is to have conditions to maintain our body in a clean natural enviroment, in comfortable natural equilibrium, be healthy and to be able to help our neighbours to share this same wealth with us. Helping them mean we are spiritually wealthy, and such spiritual actions will bring us a, God given true state of undying interior joy)
- Learn to share and give it to the needy as a offering to the Eternal Spirit.
- Do it by faith, always hold onto faith.
- Do everything in the most secret way possible!
- Spread the Word.
These word's inspiration:
*Bible:
[Revelation 11:18] "The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small-- and for destroying those who destroy the earth."
[Hebrews 13:16] Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are pleasing to God.
[Acts 20:35] In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
[Matthew 6:1-4] “Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
[Luke 12:33] "Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys."
*Quran:
[17:26-29] You shall give the due alms to the relatives, the needy, the poor, and the travelling alien, but do not be excessive, extravagant.
The extravagant are brethren of the devils, and the devil is unappreciative of his Lord. Even if you have to turn away from them, as you pursue the mercy of your Lord, you shall treat them in the nicest manner. You shall not keep your hand stingily tied to your neck, nor shall you foolishly open it up, lest you end up blamed and sorry.
[2:215] "They ask you about giving: say, "The charity you give shall go to the parents, the relatives, the orphans, the poor, and the traveling alien." Any good you do, God is fully aware thereof."
[9:60] Charities(Sadaqaat) shall go to the poor, the needy, the workers who collect them, the new converts, to free the slaves, to those burdened by sudden expenses, in the cause of Allah, and to the traveling alien. Such is GOD's commandment. GOD is Omniscient, Most Wise.
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Post by oterraplanero on Apr 9, 2015 14:43:22 GMT
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