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Apr 12, 2015 1:10:49 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 1:10:49 GMT
From Zhib:
Convex/concave Earth stupidity, water surfaces are curved and flow uphill LOL
More from Zhib: "I am waiting for mister and miss college degree to show me an experiment where water surfaces are curved should be simple for the concave and convex fools to produce an experiment proving their theory, they can't because their theory of convexity/concavity is garbage, EARTH IS A FLAT PLANE, WATER SURFACES ARE NOT CURVED UPWARDS OR DOWNWARDS, WATER SURFACES ARE HORIZONTAL. IF YOU THINK EARTH IS CONVEX/CONCAVE THEN PROVE WATER SURFACES CURVE ON A SMALLER SCALE THEN YOUR LYING MODEL AND SHOW THE WORLD THE EXPERIMENT, YOU CANT BECAUSE WATER SURFACES ARE HORIZONTAL."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 2:55:57 GMT
It is good to be tolerant. However, when the one that you are being tolerant to has a track record of subverting tolerism than our tolerance must be put in check, because in this case our tolerance is ill conceived.
So here ya go:
The CONMAN cave Earth "theory" is rooted from Satanic alchemy:
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Apr 12, 2015 3:08:52 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 3:08:52 GMT
Well, yours are respectful objections, rationally explained and without adding any unnecessary disrespect.
Of course Zhib Rhan in the video does sound aggressive and uses strong words, but he always talks this way, very passionately, so by now we are used to it and I hope no one will get offended.
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Apr 12, 2015 3:14:26 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 3:14:26 GMT
Steven Christopher is going to deliver his alchemy views on how God, (which the Scripture says Heaven and Earth cannot contain Him), built His own "prison cell" and called it concave earth....and then carry forward onto his "he is christ reincarnated" craziness. So have fun with him. I don't have enough room in my head to deal with THAT lunacy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 3:25:37 GMT
Well, I am surprised that after we were excluded from IFERS for our opinions, you are now doing to someone else the same thing.
You should argue with rational arguments based on the content (your facts and analysis), of both flat earth and spiritual matters, instead of using terms that belittle his opinions, and "ad hominem" attacks.
If you don't want to discuss the contents, you are not forced, but then again, what is the justice and objective of using these derogatory terms?
I have to respectfully disagree with you. Otherwise we would not be showing the tolerance and respect that we were denied at IFERS.
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Apr 12, 2015 6:59:06 GMT
Post by lordstevenchrist on Apr 12, 2015 6:59:06 GMT
It is good to be tolerant. However, when the one that you are being tolerant to has a track record of subverting tolerism than our tolerance must be put in check, because in this case our tolerance is ill conceived. So here ya go: The CONMAN cave Earth "theory" is rooted from Satanic alchemy: Pro 6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. Pro 12:17 He that speaketh truth sheweth forth righteousness: but a false witness deceit. Pro 14:5 A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies. Pro 19:5 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall not escape. Pro 19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish. Pro 21:28 A false witness shall perish: but the man that heareth speaketh constantly. Watch your tongues. NSA is watching.
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Apr 12, 2015 7:01:13 GMT
Post by lordstevenchrist on Apr 12, 2015 7:01:13 GMT
Steven Christopher is going to deliver his alchemy views on how God, (which the Scripture says Heaven and Earth cannot contain Him), built His own "prison cell" and called it concave earth....and then carry forward onto his "he is christ reincarnated" craziness. So have fun with him. I don't have enough room in my head to deal with THAT lunacy. To deny the earth's concavity is to deny God himself. Hypocrisy. To call Christ "crazy" is a serious mistake.
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Apr 12, 2015 7:56:39 GMT
Post by lordstevenchrist on Apr 12, 2015 7:56:39 GMT
ah posts deleted eh. that was a mistake.
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Post by LIT on Apr 12, 2015 7:59:18 GMT
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Apr 12, 2015 13:34:45 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 13:34:45 GMT
Steven Christopher is going to deliver his alchemy views on how God, (which the Scripture says Heaven and Earth cannot contain Him), built His own "prison cell" and called it concave earth....and then carry forward onto his "he is christ reincarnated" craziness. So have fun with him. I don't have enough room in my head to deal with THAT lunacy. To deny the earth's concavity is to deny God himself. Hypocrisy. To call Christ "crazy" is a serious mistake. And there it is...Steven dialing in the crazy. To deny that the earth is concave is not to deny the God of Heaven, the God of the Bible...it IS to deny YOUR god, the Beast. I was not calling The LORD Jesus Christ crazy JUST YOU, Steven Whateveryourrealnameis.
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Apr 12, 2015 13:50:55 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 13:50:55 GMT
THE VERY INSTANT that Steven brings up his "christ" delusion...or that he is sicking the NSA on anyone, or suggesting any member be thrown into a prison camp...or to deny concave earth is to deny god...or to suggest taking his obviously satanic alchemy antichrist "symbol"...then I am going to hit him with a barrage of posts all over this forum showing what he truly represents. Have him stick to his other alchemist buddy Cyrus Teed's theory about the earth being concave and proving it, and it will be peaceful.
IF he dials in the crazy or starts linking and trying to lead people to his page and videos which promote his hate mongering, then I am coming at him in this very forum.
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Post by LIT on Apr 12, 2015 13:57:04 GMT
LionThe rules apply to everyone. There are categories. Anyone can post in the appropriate category. Steve should also stick to these rules. Telling people that they will be punished if they don't believe he is Christ, when this is not the topic of conversation is also changing the subject and something which might be moderated. No one should be provoked though. Calling another member crazy doesn't really help resolve the issues, right?
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Apr 12, 2015 14:02:08 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 14:02:08 GMT
LionThe rules apply to everyone. There are categories. Anyone can post in the appropriate category. Steve should also stick to these rules. Telling people that they will be punished if they don't believe he is Christ, when this is not the topic of conversation is also changing the subject and something which might be moderated. No one should be provoked though. Calling another member crazy doesn't really help resolve the issues, right? The individuals on this forum, from what I gather and have observed, are truly trying to exchange ideas and learn and figure stuff out...which is great. This person calling himself "Steven Christopher" engages in Cyrus Teed's concave earth theory ONLY to lead people to his act that he believes himself to be christ reincarnated, and then to take his nazi-alchemist mark. It's an act, but a dangerous one and good people could get sucked into it unwittingly. Tolerance is good, but you can't tolerate one who wants to burn down the tolerance.
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Apr 12, 2015 14:05:12 GMT
Post by LIT on Apr 12, 2015 14:05:12 GMT
LionThe rules apply to everyone. There are categories. Anyone can post in the appropriate category. Steve should also stick to these rules. Telling people that they will be punished if they don't believe he is Christ, when this is not the topic of conversation is also changing the subject and something which might be moderated. No one should be provoked though. Calling another member crazy doesn't really help resolve the issues, right? The individuals on this forum, from what I gather and have observed, are truly trying to exchange ideas and learn and figure stuff out...which is great. This person calling himself "Steven Christopher" engages in Cyrus Teed's concave earth theory ONLY to lead people to his act that he believes himself to be christ reincarnated, and then to take his nazi-alchemist mark. It's an act, but a dangerous one and good people could get sucked into it unwittingly. Tolerance is good, but you can't tolerate one who wants to burn down the tolerance. Yeah, as I said, anyone would be tolerated if they are here to discuss, if they start insulting and preventing the discussion by trolling there might be some kind of moderation. I don't find his flat Earth debunking videos insulting at all. His other views are irrelevant. As long as you and him stay focused on the topic everything will be just fine.
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Apr 12, 2015 14:08:26 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 14:08:26 GMT
The very instant he brings up his, as you call them, "irrelevant views", then it begins. He has ruined WAY too many forums doing this. He is a KNOWN operative. But you'll find out.
here's more Steven at his best:
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Post by LIT on Apr 12, 2015 14:11:56 GMT
LionThis is not a thread about Steven, this is a thread to discuss concave Earth. If you want to insult Steven and debunk his personality do it in another thread please.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 14:13:54 GMT
Well, Lion, according to IFERS we all are "shills", so this has taught me to just focus on content and not use such terms. You could very well say that he is teaching "dangerous theories" or that you completely disagree with him, and no one would feel insulted. In fact it would promote discussion. With the "shill" word, we know what happens. In a matter of weeks, the debates are over, full-fledged intolerance begins... look at IFERS.
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Apr 12, 2015 14:15:16 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 14:15:16 GMT
LionThis is not a thread about Steven, this is a thread to discuss concave Earth. If you want to insult Steven and debunk his personality do it in another thread please. Like I said before, THE VERY INSTANT that Steven brings up his "christ" delusion...or that he is sicking the NSA on anyone, or suggesting any member be thrown into a prison camp...or to deny concave earth is to deny god...or to suggest taking his obviously satanic alchemy antichrist "symbol"...then I am going to hit him with a barrage of posts all over this forum showing what he truly represents. Have him stick to his other alchemist buddy Cyrus Teed's theory about the earth being concave and proving it, and it will be peaceful. IF he dials in the crazy or starts linking and trying to lead people to his page and videos which promote his hate mongering, then I am coming at him in this very forum. Can you control him, LIT ?
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Post by LIT on Apr 12, 2015 14:32:45 GMT
LionWhat am I supposed to do with this unrelated content? Could you please let me know of your concerns in private messages instead of discussing them here? We have now a lot of posts which are not related to the topic, and Steven is not even here to say anything. Do you think this is friendly? I don't. Please and this applies to everyone, if you have any issues with a poster either write to me in private or open a thread where you can express your anger.
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Apr 12, 2015 14:36:07 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 14:36:07 GMT
Ok I can see, LIT, you do not know what you have invited in. So I am going to back off for about a month and check back and see how you all are doing at that time. IF you need me you know where to find me.
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Apr 12, 2015 14:37:48 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 14:37:48 GMT
That's exactly what we didn't want you to do. I am glad you're leaving the door open and not slamming it. I hope you will come back sooner than in a month.
We wanted this forum to be a successful experiment in freedom of speech and mutual respect and you leaving or making someone else leave does not go in that direction.
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Apr 12, 2015 21:08:53 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 21:08:53 GMT
I'm with Lion 100% on this. "lordstevenchrist" is a known operative, a CIA stooge who is also intentionally offensive, to destroy your board. I'm not going to leave, but, I will say that it's a very foolish mistake to allow him on the board. But do what you want.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 21:17:17 GMT
He has not been offensive, and none of us are allowed to be offensive, so we shouldn't worry about it, because on this board, nothing like that can happen, not even to him. That's why we told Lion to stop using derogatory terms towards him.
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Apr 12, 2015 21:21:51 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 21:21:51 GMT
He has not been offensive, and none of us are allowed to be offensive, so we shouldn't worry about it, because on this board, nothing like that can happen, not even to him. That's why we told Lion to stop using derogatory terms towards him. You don't fully know what you're dealing with, but you'll find out in time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 21:32:40 GMT
As I always say, I still think we should judge the specific behavior instead of the person as a whole. When Eric was nice, we appreciated him. Then he banned us, and we resented that behavior, but his flat earth documentary is still good.
In the same way, if Steven is nice, then we have to be grateful that he is nice. And if he is not nice, we will say it. But until here we are the only ones who have not been nice.
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Apr 12, 2015 21:34:46 GMT
Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 21:34:46 GMT
As I always say, I still think we should judge the specific behavior instead of the person as a whole. When Eric was nice, we appreciated him. Then he banned us, and we resented that behavior, but his flat earth documentary is still good. In the same way, if Steven is nice, then we have to be grateful that he is nice. And if he is not nice, we will say it. But until here we are the only ones who have not been nice. He's not nice. And he thinks he's Jesus Christ, so he's also delusional. But he does it for attention, and also because he is a CIA spook. If people enjoy wasting time with someone that wants to spin people in circles, then he's your man.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 21:45:13 GMT
Wow, two "ad hominem" attacks from you? I am surprised: "delusional" is really a bad term. And, after we were banned and called "shills", you do the same to someone else? I don't think this type of expressions should be allowed here. I hope LIT will speak some sense into you about this and remove Lion's and your offensive posts. We did not like it when others called us "shills". Besides, regarding "delusional", I respectfully disagree with you. According to mainstream culture we are all "delusional", so we should learn the lesson to not call others what we don't like to be called. And regarding wasting time, no one asked you and Lion to come here and basically attack him personally on the Concave Earth thread. I make my proposal to LIT to remove all posts with "ad hominem" attacks at least from this thread. And I respectfully ask you to disagree on specific content rather than on a person as a whole, just like i was trying to do for Eric, who offended us all personally, but should not be dismissed as a "shill" because of it.
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