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Post by steve on Apr 30, 2015 12:37:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 13:02:09 GMT
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Post by LIT on Apr 30, 2015 13:12:58 GMT
steveSo you started using your old account again  Wow, I guess we can have 10000 members this way. I will watch the video when I get home.
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Post by steve on Apr 30, 2015 13:30:16 GMT
i lost my pw on the other :/
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Post by LIT on Apr 30, 2015 13:33:07 GMT
steveI pretty much agree with your criticism of the flat Earth theory. What I don't understand is why you think the concave Earth is the true Earth? What is your evidence apart from the so-called rectilineator experiment?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 13:44:27 GMT
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Post by steve on Apr 30, 2015 13:50:33 GMT
steveI pretty much agree with your criticism of the flat Earth theory. What I don't understand is why you think the concave Earth is the true Earth? What is your evidence apart from the so-called rectilineator experiment? no one has the right to sully the rectilineator exp results if they never took the time to re-conduct it. tamarack mine shafts are another good exp. but it's simply eliminating the impossible things...heliocentrism, flat earth...and whatever remains is the truth. |
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Post by LIT on Apr 30, 2015 14:17:48 GMT
steveI am confused. Why should convex Earth be impossible but concave shouldn't? If we assume the Earth is round and doesn't spin, it doesn't automatically mean it is concave. How about geocentrism? You can still have glass sky if the Earth is convex. As far as I know, the results of the rectilineator experiment have never been accepted by the scientific community. Why is that?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 14:19:49 GMT
Just as the scientific community does not accept that the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled demolition. We know we cannot rely on the scientific community to tell us the truth.
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Post by LIT on Apr 30, 2015 14:25:37 GMT
flat earth truthYeah, and you can rely on people who are even less reliable. Actually, what are you saying? Why do you keep referring to 911 in every thread. Political conspiracies have nothing to do with the shape of the planet. Steve just completely destroyed flat Earth, but you still believe in the flat Earth map. I see a cognitive dissonance in this. There is absolutely no reason for the Earth to be concave if it is round. It is true the model works better than the flat Earth model though. However, it doesn't mean it is reality unless steve can provide hard evidence, and he can't. He also quotes the notorious rectilineator experiment. Why should I trust its results? Also, if the Earth is concave it means we live in the ultimate prison. How is this even fun?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 14:39:05 GMT
How many hours did you spend studying the Rectilineator? I didn't spend even one hour studying it, so I can't call it anything, let alone belittle it, as many are doing here on this forum. I heard in the Concave Earth Sessions, many people with a scientific background talk about scientific evidence for a concave earth and explain it in detail. Did you listen to one Concave Earth Session? You should. Those people are better than the scientists you are referring to, because they do not have a conflict of interest. What I believe doesn't matter. I owe respect to people who are spending all this time to express and document their beliefs. I draw my conclusions from what I know, but I could be wrong, and at any rate I still owe them respect. |
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Post by LIT on Apr 30, 2015 15:11:31 GMT
flat earth truthWhat you wrote is quite contradictory. You don't believe in it, but you think it is fine, because you didn't study it. What? Seriously, you lost me. They do have a conflict of interest. It is pretty basic really. They believe it is true. There was a cult around this thing. How isn't this a conflict of interest? You should know all of it anyway. Didn't you watch the videos you posted yourself? What do you mean you haven't done research? Steve did a lot of research you think? What do you call research anyway? Just reading about an experiment is not research at all. None of those people were independent scientists. All of them were affiliated with the cult. How is this reliable at all? Also, let's say, the experiment is true. Still, the rest of the world doesn't believe them. Not even you. Please if you want me to take you seriosly stick to your position that the Earth is flat. Now you believe in concave Earth? I am confused. Of course, it matters what you believe in. You're the one I am talking to. I am not talking to the wall(although sometimes it feels that way). You can't respect something which you consider wrong. This is absolutely false logic. Your motto is: I think you're wrong, but I respect you for what you think! Sorry, but the above doesn't make sense. The word respect means: a feeling of admiring someone or something that is good, valuable, important. If you think something is wrong, you can't admire the same thing and consider it good and valuable. That is a logical fallacy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 15:24:28 GMT
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Feel free to think whatever you want of me, and have your endless objections and misrepresentations of what I think (probably due to misunderstanding me, and due to the fact that you have a hard time respecting people who think differently than you). I am just saying my opinion: I respect Steven and his colleagues for their work, which you have delved into even less than I have done... because it is not accepted by mainstream science.
Also, I will try to discourage others from talking lightly about their research, and from commenting on it superficially. I don't know enough about it to comment on it. Unfortunately, others seem to be more prone to comment on it than to investigate it.
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Post by steve on Apr 30, 2015 17:04:37 GMT
the earth is concave, use your intuition. and use sound experimentation. especially if you believe in a creator. one who has the genius to confuse the "intelligence" of man, and in the end reveal their stupidity (of which i am about to do on a very large scale.)
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Post by steve on Apr 30, 2015 17:08:29 GMT
flat earth truthYeah, and you can rely on people who are even less reliable. Actually, what are you saying? Why do you keep referring to 911 in every thread. Political conspiracies have nothing to do with the shape of the planet. Steve just completely destroyed flat Earth, but you still believe in the flat Earth map. I see a cognitive dissonance in this. There is absolutely no reason for the Earth to be concave if it is round. It is true the model works better than the flat Earth model though. However, it doesn't mean it is reality unless steve can provide hard evidence, and he can't. He also quotes the notorious rectilineator experiment. Why should I trust its results? Also, if the Earth is concave it means we live in the ultimate prison. How is this even fun? when you come to terms with the fact that you are living in a closed "prison" as you call it. (I call it a beautiful home.) your imagination runs wild. This was the case for myself when i was in prison. My dreams were highly imaginative, of which my subconscious resorted to for comfort. In the same way, man resorts to fantasy (outer space, aliens, parallel universes) all in an attempt to deny and block out the real condition of his existence. |
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Post by jayjay on May 3, 2015 17:35:18 GMT
@lit
The fact that you ask why the scientific community doesn't agree and then you write to acenci "Why do you keep referring to 911 in every thread. Political conspiracies have nothing to do with the shape of the planet.", has me shaking my head.
If you think political conspiracies have nothing to do with the bullshit that NASA is feeding us, then I would have to strongly disagree. I would say acenci made a damn good point about the scientific community and 911. If you want to knock the rectilineator and mine shaft experiments, do so with conclusive experiments showing a convex curve. Do you have any? The reason why flat earth and concave hold up better is because of the many experiments that disprove a convex curve. Vision of north star under equator. Vision of cities across bodies of water that should be out of view. Bedford level. I'm even finding people shooting lasers across a low plane of water for distances that should hit a bulge midway. If you have proven the convex curve and I missed it, please direct me to the evidence. I have made no conclusions other than what we are told by the scientific community is a lie, so I am all ears.
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Post by LIT on May 6, 2015 10:43:05 GMT
jayjayBelieving in anything without evidence is naive. You can only believe in God this way, but you can't believe that a flight is fake, or a map projection is not a map projection but the true map or whatever just because 911 was an inside job. Drawing parallels between random conspiracies is just wrong. I am sure someone believes that JFK was killed because he was about to announce to the world the Earth is flat. I am sure you can say that US started the Gulf War, because Saddam wanted to provide prove the Earth is flat. Sorry, but not everything has to do with the shape of the planet. Political conspiracies have to do with politics not with "hidden" flights over the Pacific ocean, Antarctcia, flat Earth or whatnot. You can deny that people climb Everest more easily than denying that you can take a direct flight between Australia and S Africa and S America. My comment is regarding the flat Earth beliefs which are often absolutely unevidenced.
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Wow, I guess we can have 10000 members this way. I will watch the video when I get home. 