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Post by biggles2015 on Apr 23, 2015 23:41:12 GMT
Just a quick comment on a visit I had today to the Royal Geographical Society (RGS) in London - map room. I was a weird experience.
I've been a member (fellow) of the RGS for over 25 years and have run two expeditions supported by the RGS when at university. I'm ex military, .......
Anyway, i visited the RGS map room today to ask about their Antarctica maps as part of my FE research. I explained to the staff in the map room that I was trying to disprove the FE theory; but I had failed so far. It was totally weird. They changed immediately from being polite to difficult and unhelpful. The atmosphere was tense and unfriendly. One person in particular became quite aggressive and did the normal speeches about why FE theory is wrong. Why the 1959 Antarctica Treaty is fabulous, ..... I laughed politely and said that this was all BS. The conversation then went weird. The guy became very flustered and started talking about lots of things at once and managed to say "we're not one of those secret societies"..... I guess he meant freemasons. He also talked about conspiracy theories in general, ..... I pushed on on what he meant by this and he became defensive then passive-aggressive, accusing me of twisting his words.
Anyway, I stated that I was focused only on evidence, not speculation. To disprove the FE from first principles and first hand experiences. This stumped them.
Normally the staff at the RGS are cheerful and friendly.
One of the map room staff then checked my pass and RGS membership (which is unusual). Then he disappeared elsewhere in the building. It felt very spooky.
When I got round to asking to see their Antarctica maps they were very unhelpful. I browsed their digital catalogue but it was not very useful; unless you had something very specific to focus on.
I'm guessing that the answer to the FE isn't in their maps but this experience tells me something odd is going on.
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Post by aliveandkicking on Apr 24, 2015 4:22:40 GMT
Just a quick comment on a visit I had today to the Royal Geographical Society (RGS) in London - map room. I was a weird experience. I've been a member (fellow) of the RGS for over 25 years and have run two expeditions supported by the RGS when at university. I'm ex military, ....... Anyway, i visited the RGS map room today to ask about their Antarctica maps as part of my FE research. I explained to the staff in the map room that I was trying to disprove the FE theory; but I had failed so far. It was totally weird. They changed immediately from being polite to difficult and unhelpful. The atmosphere was tense and unfriendly. One person in particular became quite aggressive and did the normal speeches about why FE theory is wrong. Why the 1959 Antarctica Treaty is fabulous, ..... I laughed politely and said that this was all BS. The conversation then went weird. The guy became very flustered and started talking about lots of things at once and managed to say "we're not one of those secret societies"..... I guess he meant freemasons. He also talked about conspiracy theories in general, ..... I pushed on on what he meant by this and he became defensive then passive-aggressive, accusing me of twisting his words. Anyway, I stated that I was focused only on evidence, not speculation. To disprove the FE from first principles and first hand experiences. This stumped them. Normally the staff at the RGS are cheerful and friendly. One of the map room staff then checked my pass and RGS membership (which is unusual). Then he disappeared elsewhere in the building. It felt very spooky. When I got round to asking to see their Antarctica maps they were very unhelpful. I browsed their digital catalogue but it was not very useful; unless you had something very specific to focus on. I'm guessing that the answer to the FE isn't in their maps but this experience tells me something odd is going on. If you are ex military and university educated then it will be easy for you to disprove the idea the earth is flat. You must know about navigation, and if you have been a member of the RGS for 25 years you are likely to know people who can show you equipment like a ships Gyro compass or who can reason with you about the stars moon and sun being upside down and rotating differently in the southern hemisphere. A cheap hand held GPS unit contains all the information you need to know the Earth is either round or flat - why would anybody create a massive conspiracy and then give you the tools to prove the earth was flat? To be a flat earther you have to believe that all scientific people, surveyors, pilots and technicians, sailors, astronomers - pretty well anybody with an education - is in a conspiracy.
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Post by biggles2015 on Apr 24, 2015 7:08:51 GMT
No, that's not true. And you're missing the point of the post. I am not discussing whether the earth is flat or not, just how people respond when you tell them that you are trying to disprove the FE theory; which has not been done. The Bedford Level Canal experiments on curvature still stands.
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Post by aliveandkicking on Apr 24, 2015 7:42:36 GMT
No, that's not true. And you're missing the point of the post. I am not discussing whether the earth is flat or not, just how people respond when you tell them that you are trying to disprove the FE theory; which has not been done. The Bedford Level Canal experiments on curvature still stands. What is not true? The first bedford level experiments were intended to prove a flat earth. Surveyors know you cannot make measurements unless you are higher than the water level by a considerable amount. Modern surveying enables 2cm accuracy in three dimensions anywhere on Earth. Distance over 50km can be measured to an accuracy of one centimeter using readily available commercial equipment. Inertial guidance used in every passenger jet flying long distances proves a 747 rotates downwards in three dimensional space 8.1 degree per hour while flying at the same altitude at 900kmh. An amateur electronics enthusiast can build their own GPS receiver and supply their own calculations. Amateur radio enthusiasts have been building communication satellites since 1962. Anybody can decode satellite information using under 1000 dollars of equipment. You cannot know your position on a flat earth if you are supplied with data for a round earth coming from the ground, so obviously the satellite data transmitted is not for calculations involving a flat earth. Every cheap GPS unit provides all of the information you need to work out the shape of the Earth. Why are the illuminati flat earth guardians going to so easily allow that information to be made available to teenage hackers when supposedly they go to such extreme lengths to keep people ignorant?? Come on mate. The idea so many ordinary people are in a NWO conspiracy is paranoia of a very high level.
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