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Post by zero11s on Mar 31, 2015 6:11:49 GMT
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Post by efrohi on Apr 4, 2015 6:40:23 GMT
Its a brainwash ...
Everybody say there are to many people ... For what is the right question !
See my nwo post ...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 11:34:29 GMT
Interesting study. There are so many manipulations about population size.
First of all, I don't believe it is possible to "overpopulate" the earth. So "overpopulation" is a myth. Even if there were 7 billion people on earth, as they claim, that's nothing. Most of the earth is empty. Drive or fly over vast parts of any continent. The earth is empty.
Add into that, that the flat earth conspiracy, calling the earth a ball, is hiding how much land there really is, and there's tons of land.
And starvation is not caused by lack of food and water. Starvation is caused by governments and authorities hoarding the food and water from their people, in other words, corruption is the cause.
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Post by efrohi on Apr 4, 2015 13:19:08 GMT
Jess
The problem is that we are week ... Everybody thing only for himself ... the most people have in post industrial revolution (know) no work ... No money, no food ... Nobody help ... We must face the real problems ... Automatiziation ... Are we in willing to feed people who dont work ... And for there children ...
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Post by cobracommander on May 9, 2015 8:51:53 GMT
There are 500 million people in the world. I released a video on this weeks ago. The way to figure out the approximate number of people in the world is to grab the 3 or 4 most populated cities in every state and country. To get the most accurate number, take the number of all these cities added up and times it by 2 to account for the rural areas. The number you come up with will closely resemble what the Georgia Guidestones says. In order to maintain this population, they are not looking for a real cure for cancer in the sudden growth of Heroin. They overprescribed opiates and opioids on purpose, and then people got addicted. They then made it hard for pain patients to obtain the opiate/opioid medications with their new restrictions on prescribing the medications. Many of these pain patients who were not junkies before turned to Herion for pain relief, and are now dying at an alarming rate. I am certain this was part of their plan all along for population control. I hear at least one story a day of some lost soul passing away from Herion overdose. A lot of people say 9/11 was about oil. I believe it was about opium. Didn't the Taliban stop production of opium.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 9:05:18 GMT
Regarding the depopulation agenda, also check out these audios by Dr Dunegan on Dr.Day's 1969 lecture: drrichardday.wordpress.com/audio/What is said in those tapes is line with your statements in the first part of your post, cobracommander. Regarding 911, I agree, but then Bush also used it to go into Iraq, so maybe it could be about both, whether Iraq was just about oil or other strategical reasons.
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Post by LIT on May 9, 2015 9:27:47 GMT
There are 500 million people in the world. I released a video on this weeks ago. The way to figure out the approximate number of people in the world is to grab the 3 or 4 most populated cities in every state and country. To get the most accurate number, take the number of all these cities added up and times it by 2 to account for the rural areas. The number you come up with will closely resemble what the Georgia Guidestones says. In order to maintain this population, they are not looking for a real cure for cancer in the sudden growth of Heroin. They overprescribed opiates and opioids on purpose, and then people got addicted. They then made it hard for pain patients to obtain the opiate/opioid medications with their new restrictions on prescribing the medications. Many of these pain patients who were not junkies before turned to Herion for pain relief, and are now dying at an alarming rate. I am certain this was part of their plan all along for population control. I hear at least one story a day of some lost soul passing away from Herion overdose. A lot of people say 9/11 was about oil. I believe it was about opium. Didn't the Taliban stop production of opium. Have you been to China or India? The world doesn't have only 500 million people. That is absolute dis-info. There are things called birth certificates and death certificates. At least in the civilized world the numbers must be correct. In the EU alone there is over 500 million people!
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Post by cobracommander on May 9, 2015 10:40:15 GMT
No, but I can grab the population of the largest cities in China and come to a closer estimate than their inflated country population number. They don't expect people to do this math, so they can throw out a fake population number of the entire country, while posting a more realistic number for the cities. I'm sure I can simplify proving the hoax by focusing on China alone and proving there is not What..3 billion people living there? I focused heavily on China already, and I know I'm not going to come close to that number. There is a major flaw in the country and city populations where they screwed up big time.
China can be key to me solving.this hoax without wasting much time with all the other countries.
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Post by cobracommander on May 9, 2015 11:07:52 GMT
China
1.357 billion alleged population in 2013
10 largest cities in 2013
Shanghai 22 mill Beijing 19 mil Tianjin 11 mill Guangzhou 11 mill Shenzhen 10 mill Dongguan 8 mill Taipei 8 mill Chengdu 7 mill Hong Kong 7 mill Hangzhou 7 mill
=110,000,000
Double that population to account for the other cities and rural areas... =220,000,000
Triple that population...
330,000,000
That's more than a billion off the 1.357 Billion mark
I personally believe it's closer to that 220,000,000 mark.
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Post by heathen on May 9, 2015 14:14:56 GMT
Do they explain how they came up with their population of 1.3 billion in China? I don't know if your method in finding an approx. population is right but it looks like there might be something to that.
Anyway, just thinking about how people can be, it wouldn't be surprising if some countries exaggerated their populations. That alone might look intimidating and you might think the military would be huge. And if you needed aid, maybe having more people would bring in more aid?
Also, I have heard China has strict population controls. That lends to the idea they have too many people. But maybe that's in place for other reasons than over population per se?
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Post by LIT on May 9, 2015 14:30:40 GMT
Actually, your method is very wrong. China is huge. Have you looked at any population distribution maps? I didn't think so.
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Post by cobracommander on May 10, 2015 2:11:56 GMT
LiT,
I've explained that the most accurate way to solve the population hoax is by looking at the actual city populations, where they most likely used some similar form of the Census Bureau to calculate people in the cities. They can pull country population numbers out of their arse and just make it up. Take my calculation of the 10 largest cities in China and even times it by 6... it's still Less than half of the alleged population of China. Accepting their word that the population is 1.357 billion from a map they made up is like accepting the image of the Earth as real. You know what I mean? I took 10 very large cities and multiplied it by 6, and the population is still not near close. Something very fishy is up with that.
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Post by dove on May 10, 2015 2:43:45 GMT
It is hard to keep track of the number of people on this planet , everyday there are babies and coffins, a 10 year consensus is impossible and counting the number of people is downright impossible, only God does know the real number of humans on earth, but if 7 billion was an estimate , then it could be a horrible one
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Post by cobracommander on May 10, 2015 3:05:53 GMT
It is hard to keep track of the number of people on this planet , everyday there are babies and coffins, a 10 year consensus is impossible and counting the number of people is downright impossible, only God does know the real number of humans on earth, but if 7 billion was an estimate , then it could be a horrible one I used the closest numbers I could find, 2013. Imagine this... China's alleged population would be like having a country of 160 New York City's. There is no possible way that country is as populated as 160 NYC's! Total BS!!!
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Post by dove on May 10, 2015 3:24:40 GMT
Yep, the numbers are bs and are used to support the global warming and thus control can be implemented to bar is from the almost abundant resources of the earth
They could be using the depopulation agenda to terrorize us and push us into a fear of the upcoming genocide, I fact there will be no genocide
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Post by cobracommander on May 11, 2015 3:38:22 GMT
Yep, the numbers are bs and are used to support the global warming and thus control can be implemented to bar is from the almost abundant resources of the earth They could be using the depopulation agenda to terrorize us and push us into a fear of the upcoming genocide, I fact there will be no genocide That is most likely the reason for them making up a fake population number. It keeps people talking about FEMA death camps and all that crap. People are stuck in fear, when there is really nothing to fear. An inflated population also allows them to inflate deaths in wars and make up fake victims in psy-ops. More fear propaganda.
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Post by LIT on May 11, 2015 7:30:05 GMT
It is not hard to keep track of the deaths and the births. What you're suggesting is just preposterous. I am sorry, but that is how I feel about it. There might be slight differences, but definitely not such huge discrepancies. Why do you think we have population censuses? China doesn't have 10 cities over 1 million, it has many more, that is not even counting the smaller towns and villages: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_China_by_populationEven small countries like the Netherlands have close to 17 million people! You can't make up stuff and expect people to agree with you. Actually, such things are not even debatable. You can even extract a list of all the town, cities and villages of any country by population! If you suggested that the Great Chinese Wall wasn't that ancient, I would likely agree, but suggesting that the censuses are drastically different than reality is just ridiculous, especially when you cannot back it up.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 7:36:58 GMT
It is not hard to keep track of the deaths and the births. What you're suggesting is just preposterous. I am sorry, but that is how I feel about it. There might be slight differences, but definitely not such huge discrepancies. Why do you think we have population censuses? China doesn't have 10 cities over 1 million, it has many more, that is not even counting the smaller towns and villages: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_China_by_populationEven small countries like the Netherlands have close to 17 million people! You can't make up stuff and expect people to agree with you. Actually, such things are not even debatable. You can even extract a list of all the town, cities and villages of any country by population! How can we expect to have debate if the administrator himself writes "such things are not even debatable"? Your intolerance has to be curbed. Am I allowed to write this?
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Post by LIT on May 11, 2015 7:54:21 GMT
flat earth truthYou are not debating. You're talking out of your ass. There is a huge difference. I am not going to allow people making absolutely uncorroborated claims. Actually, you can make such claims, but expect to be refuted. That is how a debate works. Claiming stuff and just pretending it is true is not debate. Someone has to disagree, and in this case it is obvious that if you're reasonable at all you would disagree. Unless you guys suggest the list of cities is wrong, and they don't exist. The same way you suggest certain flights don't exist, cruises don't exist, and basically nothing that disproves your disinfo exists.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 7:59:53 GMT
OK, I am leaving.
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Post by LIT on May 11, 2015 8:12:47 GMT
Well, obviously people cannot or don't want to debate if they delete their profiles like that, because someone disagreed with them. It is absolutely ridiculous to even post something if you don't want to be confronted by anyone. This is not a sect where people say yes, yes, it is true to anything unthinkingly.
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Post by preciousjewel on May 11, 2015 11:07:37 GMT
That is a shame Acenci, please just have a break, and then come back! !! You have done an amazing job here, and we will miss you! !!
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Post by tinfoilhatgirl on May 11, 2015 15:44:28 GMT
Wow LIT, if you managed to chase acenci off which is the most patient and tolerant guy I have ever met on forum, then well done! That was an effort!
You arent debating, your posts have a kind of aggressive undertone throughout, a kind of descending tone. I "hear" that without being addressed.
So if you managed to chase acenci off, my days might be counted here too. Not that I was too active, but I was watching because I am busy with other topics at the moment.
Dont go the IFERS way. And there is quite a range to being IFERS-style. As IFERS is top notch with their intolerance their is huge space in between but enough to make it bad enough. A chain is as strong as its weakest piece.
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Post by cobracommander on May 11, 2015 15:50:49 GMT
It is not hard to keep track of the deaths and the births. What you're suggesting is just preposterous. I am sorry, but that is how I feel about it. There might be slight differences, but definitely not such huge discrepancies. Why do you think we have population censuses? China doesn't have 10 cities over 1 million, it has many more, that is not even counting the smaller towns and villages: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_China_by_populationEven small countries like the Netherlands have close to 17 million people! You can't make up stuff and expect people to agree with you. Actually, such things are not even debatable. You can even extract a list of all the town, cities and villages of any country by population! If you suggested that the Great Chinese Wall wasn't that ancient, I would likely agree, but suggesting that the censuses are drastically different than reality is just ridiculous, especially when you cannot back it up. I can't make up stuff and expect people to agree with me? You mean like make up that China has 160 New York City's, like our so called world leaders have made up, and expect us to believe them? Their stats are exaggerated garbage. I travel all over the U.S. for my line of work, and every city I go to seems to be a lot smaller than what the News Media made them out to be. You're free to believe their lies, but I'm not going to. Logic tells me their population is BS. I can see it in my own city.
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Post by LIT on May 11, 2015 16:46:15 GMT
cobracommanderProvide evidence that the Chinese censuses are wrong. You can't just state stuff and expect us to believe you. Do the cities seem smaller only to you? Do they seem smaller to their residents as well? Who cares what they seem to anyone anyway when you can count the number of residents! In fact, every city has a known population, and this is kept track of at the local level as well. Please provide proof for your claims. It seems to me, it feels like and so on are not proof. The news media have nothing to do with counting the number of people who live anywhere. No, logic doesn't tell you anything, it is your IMPRESSION that the cities are smaller. You have no facts to corroborate your claim at all. Your logic is 1500 apples seem like 500 apples, therefore 1500 apples are not 1500 apples but 500 apples. Please!
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Post by LIT on May 11, 2015 16:53:38 GMT
Wow LIT, if you managed to chase acenci off which is the most patient and tolerant guy I have ever met on forum, then well done! That was an effort! You arent debating, your posts have a kind of aggressive undertone throughout, a kind of descending tone. I "hear" that without being addressed. So if you managed to chase acenci off, my days might be counted here too. Not that I was too active, but I was watching because I am busy with other topics at the moment. Dont go the IFERS way. And there is quite a range to being IFERS-style. As IFERS is top notch with their intolerance their is huge space in between but enough to make it bad enough. A chain is as strong as its weakest piece. I didn't do anything to acenci. In fact, I have hardly participated on this forum recently. He decided to leave because he is absolutely super sensitive if someone is a bit more aggressive. I said that he is talking out of his ass, that was apparently enough for him to leave. If he is a baby and can't argue and debate more than 1 second before getting offended, it is not my problem. I didn't tell anyone to leave. He can always come back. It is his free choice. It is absolutely pointless to discuss anything if the other side is not even willing to reconsider their "opinion" and on top of that says that the evidence is not evidence. No one is intolerant here. People shouldn't get offended when someone confronts them and suggests they are talking nonsense. That is why we can debate and prove our point. Someone who gives up apparently realized the debate is pointless or doesn't have any resources left to debate.
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Post by cobracommander on May 11, 2015 18:32:51 GMT
cobracommanderProvide evidence that the Chinese censuses are wrong. You can't just state stuff and expect us to believe you. Do the cities seem smaller only to you? Do they seem smaller to their residents as well? Who cares what they seem to anyone anyway when you can count the number of residents! In fact, every city has a known population, and this is kept track of at the local level as well. Please provide proof for your claims. It seems to me, it feels like and so on are not proof. The news media have nothing to do with counting the number of people who live anywhere. No, logic doesn't tell you anything, it is your IMPRESSION that the cities are smaller. You have no facts to corroborate your claim at all. Your logic is 1500 apples seem like 500 apples, therefore 1500 apples are not 1500 apples but 500 apples. Please! Prove to me that their numbers are accurate and are not fabricated. You can't. You are taking proven liars word for truth. Find me proof of 160+ New York City's in China. Are you saying the rural parts of China are more populated than the big cities? Where I'm from, rural areas are small towns with small populations. There is no way that rural China population outnumbers big city China population.
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Post by LIT on May 11, 2015 18:40:36 GMT
Oh, I see. Someone who denies everything wants others to prove stuff to him. What is the point? You already think they are liars.
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Post by cobracommander on May 11, 2015 19:04:48 GMT
Oh, I see. Someone who denies everything wants others to prove stuff to him. What is the point? You already think they are liars. i don't think they are liars... I know they are liars. I used a process called estimating. To get to their so called 1.35 billion population, the population outside of China's 10 biggest cities would need to be more than 13 times greater. I'm not buying what they're selling.
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Post by ddddd on Feb 6, 2016 11:18:21 GMT
There are 500 million people in the world. I released a video on this weeks ago. The way to figure out the approximate number of people in the world is to grab the 3 or 4 most populated cities in every state and country. To get the most accurate number, take the number of all these cities added up and times it by 2 to account for the rural areas. The number you come up with will closely resemble what the Georgia Guidestones says. In order to maintain this population, they are not looking for a real cure for cancer in the sudden growth of Heroin. They overprescribed opiates and opioids on purpose, and then people got addicted. They then made it hard for pain patients to obtain the opiate/opioid medications with their new restrictions on prescribing the medications. Many of these pain patients who were not junkies before turned to Herion for pain relief, and are now dying at an alarming rate. I am certain this was part of their plan all along for population control. I hear at least one story a day of some lost soul passing away from Herion overdose. A lot of people say 9/11 was about oil. I believe it was about opium. Didn't the Taliban stop production of opium. Have you been to China or India? The world doesn't have only 500 million people. That is absolute dis-info. There are things called birth certificates and death certificates. At least in the civilized world the numbers must be correct. In the EU alone there is over 500 million people!
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