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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 8:18:29 GMT
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Post by bahr56 on Apr 21, 2015 9:41:36 GMT
I don't get it, what is the illumination gained?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 9:56:51 GMT
. This "war song" was my introduction to a thread that will show the perspectives and events of all peoples involved in war. The "illumination" will consist of understanding how people think, how leaders think, and how to prevent more wars. It is a thread that will focus on conflict between people, to understand better its dynamics and how to prevent it. Thank you, bahr56, for this opportunity you gave me to explain better the sense of this thread, and my own philosophy: pacifism, non-violence and an effort to avoid all unnecessary conflicts. I realize you were afraid I was creating a thread to just post music videos of that period (which would be legitimate), but I am going to do something more important to me. I will post historical documents that explain us the psychology of those who lived in that period, from all sides. That's why I had started studying German in the first place.
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Post by bahr56 on Apr 21, 2015 13:46:57 GMT
Thanks a lot for explaining. I am also a pacifist, I refused military service in my youth and had to serve in a museum instead (social service). And a few month longer than Military service. I also support the Quaker initiative for peace and subscribe to their magazine here in Norway. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuakersBut I am not a Quaker myself although I respect and like them a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 14:17:13 GMT
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Post by Thork on Apr 21, 2015 14:26:13 GMT
The reason for WW2 is misunderstood because the victors always write the history. And the victors of WW2 where banking dynasties.
Germany in WW1 was funded almost exclusively by the Rothschild family. As were the allies. They funded both sides because 'war is a racket'. In fact they have funded both sides of every major war since the Napoleonic wars in the 1700s.
Anyhoo, once Germany lost WW1 the reperations they were made to may were the war loans from the Rothschild family. This was crippling Germany. Adolf Hitler was very popular politician and decided to rid Germany of her debt so the people could be prosperous. Germany was flat broke after WW1 and couldn't escape the debt. So Hitler instructed the Bank of Germany to hyper-inflate the currency. You will have seen Germans carrying their wages home in wheel barrows and burning money because it was work more in kindling than in cash. This inflated the debt away and meant the Rothschild's no longer could suck wealth from Germany. So the Rothschilds do what they did best and threatened Germany with another war, placed financial restrictions on them and tried to Bring Hitler to heel.
Hitler, and all credit to him decided he wasn't going to take this lying down. He instructed his secret agencies to assassinate the Rothchilds and cease their assets in preparation for a coming war. And he managed it. He assassinated the entire Austrian branch of the Rothschild family and ceased all their assets. You know whenever you see how Picassos and jewellery are returned to 'Jewish families' after they were taken by Nazi Looters? Well don't be fooled into thinking the average Jew in Germany had a Rembrandt hanging on the wall. Those assets are being returned to the Rothschild family.
Anyway, this assassination made the other Rothschilds very nervous. Unfortunately though, they owned the Bank of England privately. Their family had done so since Nathan Rothschild famously declared, "I care not what puppet sits on the thrown to rule the British Empire. Who ever controls the money supply controls the British empire, and I control the money supply. So the British hatched a deal with the Rothschilds. The British would declare war on Germany in exchange for their sovereignty back. Britain was did so and the war was won by the allies. In a sense the British were fighting for their freedom, but it was freedom from the bank. In 1946 the bank of England was handed over to the government for purchase. Unfortunately the British didn't have enough money after the war to buy back the back, so the Rothschilds were given shares. Effectively they still own that fucking bank today.
If you think for a second Britain went to war for nobel reasons to help the polish, you have no idea what causes wars. The American war of independence was the exact same. The American's wanted their own currency but the Rothschilds wanted them on a debt based currency that pays interest to them at the Bank of America. On that occasion poor Britain which has been used extensively by the Rothschilds as a private army, lost the war and the Bank of America was destroyed. It would take many years and a plot at Jekyll island before they would regain control of the Americas. The Federal reserve act happened and the rest is history. Its no coincidence Britain always sides with America in every conflict. Our central banking systems are owned by the same people.
Anyway, the Rothchilds then used the war to create propaganda to protect themselves from criticism. Words like anti-Semitism were born to stop Jews being criticised. Israel (the Rothschild state) was formed - again no coincidence they get unwavering support from America, the UN was set up so the Rothschilds could more towards world governance and a NWO, a holocaust was created because "Jewish blood must be spilt to create a land for the jews" and the history books were written to cover it all over.
All wars are caused by money. Nothing else. there are no religious wars, no wars about doing the right thing, no wars for freedom. They are all wars about money where the rich and powerful get millions killed in their personal power struggles.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 15:02:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 8:42:20 GMT
William Joyce, nicknamed Lord Haw-Haw: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_JoyceSome of his radio broadcasts recordings can be found at archive.org: archive.org/details/LordHawHaw-WilliamJoyce-GermanyCalling17-23of23Like Lord Haw Haw says in his final broadcast (listen to the first three minutes), Hitler basically wanted to get Germany back to the way it was before WW I and then he might have been satisfied. But they wouldn't let him, and... you know, maybe they should have continued appeasement a little bit longer. Today almost everyone, like Churchill, say they went on for too long, or rather that it should not have even started, but I say that, since they started it, maybe they didn't keep doing it long enough. Of course, the winners are always right (i.e. Churchill), so today the common superficial truth is just one, that appeasement was foolish. But what if letting Hitler have Poland could have spared the world 50 million deaths? On the other hand, there are also battles for principles, and since he was already killing the handicapped and the Jews, then even triggering a war that caused over 50 million deaths might have made sense, for the sake of saving those persecuted minorities. More on Lord Haw Haw here at minute 13: Battle of Crete.mp4 - YouTubeBBC - Archive - Lord Haw-Haw - The Nazi broadcaster who threatened BritainWilliam Joyce, alias Lord Haw-Haw - heretical.com Should Lord Haw-Haw really have been hanged- - Express Yourself - Comment - Daily ExpressThe last Broadcast of Lord Haw Haw, 1945 - eyewitnesstohistory.com
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 13:34:51 GMT
. Drôle de guerre - phoney war - Sitzkrieg This post will show a few of the events (I will add more as I find time) that took place during the " drôle de guerre", the " phoney war", which followed the September 1st, 1939 invasion of Poland by the Germans (and, two days later, the declaration of war by France and United Kingdom) and lasted more than six months, until May 1940. "Drôle de guerre": fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr%C3%B4le_de_guerre"Phoney War": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoney_War The evacuation of civilians began even before the invasion of Poland: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evacuations_of_civilians_in_Britain_during_World_War_IIHere's some related documents. Princess Elizabeth, aged 14: archive.org/download/1939RadioNews/1939-10-13-BBC-Childrens-Hour-Broadcast-By-Princess-Elizabeth-aged-14.mp3Queen Elizabeth (the Queen Mother) speaks to the nation: archive.org/download/1939RadioNews/1939-11-11-BBC-HM-Queen-Elizabeth-Calls-on-Women.mp3The Queen's Broadcast (1939) - YouTubeMore audios here: archive.org/download/1939RadioNewsDuring the "phoney war" there were however very little civilian casualties, due to a lack of bombing on civilian land targets (an entirely different story for the ships): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_bombing_during_World_War_II#The_Western_Front.2C_1939_to_June_1940-------------------- This period was also characterized by inactivity on the western front: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoney_War#InactivityHere's some related documents, from both sides. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We%27re_Going_to_Hang_out_the_Washing_on_the_Siegfried_LineWe`re Gonna Hang Out Our Washing On The Siegfried Line - YouTubeThere was, on December 31st, 1939, this answer by the Germans: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/We%E2%80%99re_Going_to_Hang_out_the_Washing_on_the_Siegfried_Line#Deutsche_.E2.80.9EAntwort.E2.80.9C„We're going to hang out the washing on the Siegfried Line" - Deutsche Gegenversion - YouTubearchive.org/download/1939RadioNews/1939-12-31-Siegfried-Line-Nazi-Parody.mp3More audios here: archive.org/download/1939RadioNewsMore info on the phoney war here: LeMO Kapitel - Der Zweite Weltkrieg - Kriegsverlauf - Sitzkrieg 1939-40
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 18:29:25 GMT
I am reading, on page 7, about the two different air raid signals ("fliegeralarm"), one to begin the alarm and one to end it: anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?aid=dkb&datum=19390902&seite=7&zoom=33I managed to find those same alarms on youtube because I wanted to know what the newspaper description corresponded to in terms of sound: These things are still working today, having been built from over 70 years ago. In some cases they weren't removed. Here's another one: The sound does rise up and down, just as they said in the newspaper: "...auf und ab schwellenden heulton...". This is the original one, from a 1944 recording: Best clip here below, with sound analysis: It seems that they are mostly made by Siemens and I could find two types so far: WK2 and e57. Actually this guy's entire channel is dedicated to air raid sirens: www.youtube.com/user/e57michel/videosFascinating little story about the British equivalent, the sirens they used in ww2: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_defense_siren#United_KingdomWhat is interesting is that, in the clip below, not only the "alarm" signal but also the "all-clear" signal seems identical to the one used by Germans, described in the newspaper as "langgezogenen gleichbleibenden Heulton ohne Tonfall". Something like "continuous unchanged siren without inflection". It seems exactly the description of the "All Clear" siren by the British. Another interesting related thing I recently discovered is that the Germans used to have a national anthem identical to the British one: Heil dir im Siegerkranz - YouTubeen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heil_dir_im_Siegerkranz
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 19:32:11 GMT
ifers.boards.net/post/6501/threadThese links should work: 'Adolf Hitler - The Greatest Story NEVER Told' Parts 1-27 @tgsnttv 'Adolf Hitler The Greatest Story NEVER Told "FULL DOCUMENTARY" Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told Its all a scam - Hitler was funded by the same group who funded Lenin, he was probably mind controlled and spent some time at the Tavistock Insitute in the UK (Full) In the Shadow of Hermes by Jüri Lina (2009)
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Post by Kobe on May 18, 2015 18:25:36 GMT
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Post by dionysios on Aug 23, 2015 21:53:00 GMT
I suggest a succinct history of this whole period entitled 'Thus Wars Are Made' by Albert Norden, a German Jewish communist historian whose writings may also be found online. Included is the true history of how Germany was divided after the war which is not to be found in western histories.
He is highly critical of West Germany's founding postwar chancellor Conrad Adenauer giving considerable evidence that he continued the policies of the preceding Hitler administration.
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Post by dionysios on Aug 27, 2015 20:05:03 GMT
Norden wrote a book in the mid-1960's (in German) that exposed that the West German government was run by old Nazis from the Hitler era in which he exposed thousands of names going into detail about them. His book 'Thus Wars are Made!' (which is in English) was published about 1969 and is the best history of West Germany's and it's early history. Fascist West Germany is modern Germany which ate up East Germany after 1989. Norden also published a book about Nazi Germany in 1942 while in the US which focused on its funders. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Norden
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