The Planets

this is not true.

the gyro compass is affected by the magnetic rind of the concave earth. the is no spin to earth.

funny thing space is to you people.

You are correct.  The greatest technology is kept by the government, not handed out to the public.  Aliveandkicking's statements about pre-GPS are wrong statements. Because the flight paths haven't changed with the advent of GPS.  They still don't make any sense in the southern "hemisphere", before or after GPS.

Star rotation proves a flat earth, as everything is going around polaris.  But this has been discussed at length in other threads. 

Pilots are flying the course they are given.  They aren't navigating by their own will.  Including in pre-GPS days.  So you are incorrect.

You mention stars rotating in the opposite direction each side of the equator. Here's a thought experiment for you.

Imagine you walk into a large glass dome covered building. The dome is painted black on the outside, leaving the inner as a reflective medium. What does this part mean?

I'll explain.
You see, if the inner dome was painted black, as in a none gloss black. Let's call it a matt. It would absorb all the spectrum colours. Basically it would absorb all visible light because there is no medium for reflection, so it absorbs all visible light.

By painting the outside, you still leave a reflective glass surface on the inside that can reflect anything that is shone up onto it. It reflects and refracts.
Now imagine the centre of the room having a nice energy source projecting light to the dome. You are on one side of that looking up at the points of light hitting the dome. You see them from one side, yet someone else on the other side will see a mirror image, or there abouts, depending on exactly where they are positioned.

The end result is seeing  one set of lights moving in one direction and the reflection moving opposite.
You know. It's like you stood in front of a mirror and looking down to your right at your right hand, yet to view your right hand in that mirror, you have to look to the left of that mirror.

Earth doesn't have to be complicated as long as you know you're trapped inside your own comfortable prison with everything needed for survival, including comfort lighting. You're bacteria living in your huge cell among the billions of like bacteria. You don't get out and nothing gets in.

As for pilots and so called scientists. What exactly are these people?...what do they really know, except for being schooled to know or to follow protocol to the letter?

"Scientists today have discovered a new planet 600 light years away that is much like Earth."
Remember all this nonsense?

How long ago was it when they declassified a planet called pluto as nothing other than a small rock and not a planet at all?
They can tell you anything and you have two choices. You can sit in awe of the bullshit or you can look at it and wonder how much these people get paid to sit there and spout this absolute nonsense.
Pilots are seated at the front of a long tin can. They see clouds and atmosphere, plus the occasional plane through their cockpit windows. They rely on auto pilot at best or manual steering aided by dials and instruments, following a set pattern.
Basically they play follow the pattern set out. If they deviate from this set pattern, what happens?
What happens is, they are corrected  back to the set pattern. Faliure to do so renders the craft a rogue which can be shot down.

No pilot can enter a plane and decide to go where they want to.

I know you believe you know you live on a ball in space and all the rest of it and that's fine with me. Each person can believe what they wish. All I say to anyone who questions any of this or who thinks that anyone that doesn't follow a global model, is a looney. Think of the magic you're told to accept for that globe model for it to work.

Think how a daredevil motorbike rider on the  wall of death manages to stick to the inside of that wall  and yet that wall will also stop him from flying in an outwards direction.
Now imagine that same rider doing it on a large ball. Make sense?
Of course it doesn't, unless you start to add in magical things like gravity and other planets just all having perfect balancing properties to keep everything tickety boo.

People abandon their logical sense because mainstream science told them to do so. Mainstream science also told them to think of any person as a stark raving lunatic, incapable of washing their own hands, if they even dare to think anything other than what was set out before them, no matter how illogical it may seem.

What a crazy world we live in. Adults who would rather hang onto magic rather than logic.
Ah well, each to their own. I'm just glad I woke up enough to see a lot of the bullshit for what it is and is smeared in thick quantities in our faces, yet most people just use a wet wipe and ask for more.

If anything fails, the pilot merely radio's in for the nearest available airport and is given co-ordinates to that. The only guidance system that tells a pilot they are on a curve is the one that shouts, "danger, danger , you are about to crash, LEVEL up...LEVEL up."  lol

On a serious note: do you see pilots using a globe to navigate. Do you see ships doing it?
Flat maps spread out and co-ordinates taken from that flat map.

A projection of a globe map is it?...that's what they will tell you.

If a plane took off against the supposed 1000 plus mph rotation, it's clear it would reach a destination in record time. If it took off with rotation , it would take an age.
Imagine it takes off across the rotation. It would be angle swept.
Of course, I'm being illogical because everyone knows that a solid ball carries atmosphere with it and also the tonnage of a massive plane along with that...in unison...right?

As I said before. People will adandon common sense and logic in favour of mainstream bullshit. I don't know why in this day and age it still works...but it does. The severity of brainwashing is key.

You see, people cite planes and lots of stuff as proof of a globe and yet the only reason it's all being cited is for no other reason than the people who cite it have no actual proof of what is happening, just what they are told is happening.
It really is time that people just used their basic logic to see how severely unhinged this globe model is.

You can't look into the sky at night and say you see a planet. You cannot tell anyone you see a ball floating in the sky.
You cannot fly a plane and see the curvature of the Earth. High up you are above clouds. All your horizon is, is clear sky and distant cloud as your reference of horizon. Your eyes are not geared to see a curve from that unless you are looking through distorted lens that severely distorts the horizon. A fish eye does the job, or wide angle.

Spirit levels work because the Earth is essentially flat. Not pancake flat. It's concave slightly. The sea sits in it's bowl and we on land are always looking at small gradients. The rain always finds its way to the sea. Why?...because the Earth tips it that way.


Pour water on a ball and it will simply fall off. Add fictional gravity which needs no explanation other than it's gravity and keeps the water on the ball and there's your mainstream answer. No need to argue. Mainstream science tells you gravity does its stuff, so we can't argue.
Don't use common sense to argue against it or you will be called a nutter.

Great isn't it?

Space does not exist. There are no planets. There are no rocks and space dust or man made craft floatng about in any space up there. Anything that's floating about is in the sea/oceans.
A small rock thrown into the air will land back on your head because it's not supposed to be up there. Neither are planets. They are just placed in people's minds because it's a better fantasy for people to think they can merely float or warp speed or wormhole or pop into a parrallel kind of universe.
It's all true or potentially true because  it's been made to be possible by the fantasists who sit in little offices writing fictional science stories that none of us can ever verify.

People believe they know what they are viewing because they look through a telescope into the dark sky and they see dots of light and patterns of light, plus occasional moving lights. They are what they are told they are and are accepted for that because nobody knows any better and most just want to live in the fantasy of it.


Think I'm kidding?
Go and visit star trek conventions or anything like that. Go and talk to people who frequent them and find out how intelligent they are and what kind of jobs these people have.
Yeah you guessed it. They are wannabe scientists and all manner of successful people who buy into this stuff because it puts them into their comfort zone alongside the zone they are studying. They can't tell truth from fantasy because it's all theoretical stuff. It's hypotheticals that are passed off as a scientific kind of truth in most respects. The star trek is fantasy that is bordering on reality to these people. It's doable because they've made it that way.


We are skin and bone. We fall apart at mediocre speeds. We can barely jump from a flat surface more than 3 feet high. We cannot manifest sparkling lights nor zap lightning bolts at each other in order to levitate each other. We are merely arrogant organisms that believe we are intelligent because we can think up crap and build things. The truth is, we aren't very intelligent. If we were then we would be doing much more with our lives than just grazing and spinning yarns to each other based on mimicking what was put before us by people who could spin those yarns to make fantasy a reality, only in our naive brains.

Seriously it's time for us all to start looking at things from the basics. This theoretical space science and Earth science we've been made to swallow, needs spewing back up and spat down the toilet where it belongs. Then it's time we all got together and started workingas a massive unit of life chef's all adding our own ingrediants to the table to see which brings out a more palatable, believable end product.

You saying it's not possible for a pilot to be ignorant to the shape of the Earth means nothing. No offence but it really means nothing. The Earth is a big place whichever way you view it. Navigating it in a tin can tells you nothing about its shape. It can tell you about certain terrain you navigate over but gives you no indication of curvature at all.

All kinds of excises are made to try and prove a globe. They are all nonsense in my opinion.

A device that measures the angle of rotation of a flying object is not one mans opinion.

@sceptimatic

Actually, personally I haven't seen Jupiter the way you can see it in some youtube videos or NASA photos. I just saw a star which was bigger than most stars and had smaller stars next to it. However, I don't believe all amateur astronomers lie and post fake photos of Jupiter on the Internet.

@sceptimatic

You're right that Jupiter and the other lights in the sky appear blurry through a telescope almost like gas formations, but later they process the pictures through some picture editing software and in the final picture the objects appear solid.

Yeah, I understood your point, but even if they lie about the nature of the planets, the planets are still there constantly and you can see them from everywhere. How can you see something which is 200 miles up in the sky from the whole surface of the Earth? You can triangulate its position too if the object is that close.

@sceptimatic

Well, if Jupiter is simultaneously observed from Athens and Oslo, obviously it is not very near the surface. There are ways to determine the height of observable objects. By the way, this is also true for the Moon.