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Post by matt on Apr 16, 2015 12:09:06 GMT
Has anyone wondered this:
If the planets are as far away as we are told, and they are either rock or gas, etc. how is it that they shine so brightly in the sky like a star?
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Post by aliveandkicking on Apr 16, 2015 12:22:12 GMT
Has anyone wondered this: If the planets are as far away as we are told, and they are either rock or gas, etc. how is it that they shine so brightly in the sky like a star? Are the planets really are so bright compared to the moon apart from Venus? The moon is as bright as asphalt lit by sunlight so it appears bright at night. The theory for Venus being so bright is the suns light is reflecting off a dense atmosphere |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 12:30:16 GMT
Has anyone wondered this: If the planets are as far away as we are told, and they are either rock or gas, etc. how is it that they shine so brightly in the sky like a star? Are the planets really are so bright compared to the moon apart from Venus? The moon is as bright as asphalt lit by sunlight so it appears bright at night. The theory for Venus being so bright is the suns light is reflecting off a dense atmosphere How can anyone know if something is a dense atmosphere? It's a "theory". You can call anything a "theory", and the so-called "scientific" community will buy it. Never mind what your five senses tell you. Turn them off, because some dude wrote a "science" book, and so there you go.  Matt, you are right. And I don't believe there are "planets". They are lights, stars, they have different appearances because that is how they were created. |
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Post by matt on Apr 16, 2015 13:28:51 GMT
Are the planets really are so bright compared to the moon apart from Venus? The moon is as bright as asphalt lit by sunlight so it appears bright at night. The theory for Venus being so bright is the suns light is reflecting off a dense atmosphere How can anyone know if something is a dense atmosphere? It's a "theory". You can call anything a "theory", and the so-called "scientific" community will buy it. Never mind what your five senses tell you. Turn them off, because some dude wrote a "science" book, and so there you go. Matt, you are right. And I don't believe there are "planets". They are lights, stars, they have different appearances because that is how they were created. I remember seeing them through a telescope and saturn definitely looks like "saturn" and jupiter like "jupiter", etc., but to say that they simply "reflect" the sun's light in such a manner that they shine as a star shines -- without the twinkle, I guess...  does not make sense to me. Saturn is supposed to be 745 million miles from Earth, and we can see it in the sky simply by reflection. Hmmm. So when NASA's "Cassini" spacecraft took all the photos (and videos) of Saturn, shouldn't the light have been blinding? Hmmm. Which I guess brings me to another point. We have all this "data" and photographs and videos of all these other planets, their "storms", their "rotations", all their peculiarities... but not a single, solitary video of our own Earth "rotating" ... "spinning" ... "orbiting"? Are we all so uncaring about our own home to have absolutely no interest in how it works, what it looks like? Two "photos" from Apollo are enough for all of us, I guess. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 13:48:39 GMT
Which I guess brings me to another point. We have all this "data" and photographs and videos of all these other planets, their "storms", their "rotations", all their peculiarities... but not a single, solitary video of our own Earth "rotating" ... "spinning" ... "orbiting"? Are we all so uncaring about our own home to have absolutely no interest in how it works, what it looks like? Two "photos" from Apollo are enough for all of us, I guess. Enough for a gullible public, who will believe anything in the "science" book and on the TV. I love this topic, because, it shows to what extent the establishment will just make stuff up, and to see how many will buy it without any personal evidence. Like a psy-op. |
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Post by Lion on Apr 16, 2015 15:09:40 GMT
So I get my reasonably powered telescope, and I point to , (where on this chart is TOLD TO ME), where any of the stars named after demon gods are, and I can see a speck of LIGHT like any other star. The images that they give us of what the planets look like through their CGI Hummana Hummana Hubble Telescope are NOT what I can see. Nor any other amateur astronomer that I know.
Therefore NO planets.
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Post by LIT on Apr 16, 2015 15:17:36 GMT
LionWell, Jupiter looks just the same through a good telescope. Saturn as well. Actually, I could care less what the planets are. By the way, not sure if you're familiar with Wild Heretic's site, but he has a nice theory about the stars. He points out that they are not visible from high altitudes, which kind of makes them irrelevant for our purposes. As for the Earth, it is true that they must be hiding a lot, if it is 2015 and we still don't have a nice video of the Earth spinning and no photos(except the one already mentioned) of it from a distance. Even from the so-called ISS, it looks ridiculous.
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Post by matt on Apr 16, 2015 15:18:41 GMT
No, actually you can see Saturn in the same shape that we have been told it is. I have done it before. It is clear that the planets do not act like stars, as the light that comes from them is constant and does not shimmer like a star. My question is that if they are supposed to be so far away, how can mere reflection cause them to be so bright in the sky.
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Post by aliveandkicking on Apr 16, 2015 16:02:46 GMT
Are the planets really are so bright compared to the moon apart from Venus? The moon is as bright as asphalt lit by sunlight so it appears bright at night. The theory for Venus being so bright is the suns light is reflecting off a dense atmosphere How can anyone know if something is a dense atmosphere? It's a "theory". You can call anything a "theory", and the so-called "scientific" community will buy it. Never mind what your five senses tell you. Turn them off, because some dude wrote a "science" book, and so there you go. Matt, you are right. And I don't believe there are "planets". They are lights, stars, they have different appearances because that is how they were created. It will be easy to look at the known stars behind the atmosphere of venus at the edge of venus to see how the colours of the stars are transformed by the atmosphere of venus. Venus is our nearest planet. I expect something was known about the atmosphere of venus even a hundred years ago. Already that is 1915. The history of science is really quite interesting so looking at the old books available at this time will probably tell you what they knew and how they worked it out. |
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Post by Lion on Apr 16, 2015 16:27:50 GMT
No, actually you can see Saturn in the same shape that we have been told it is. I have done it before. It is clear that the planets do not act like stars, as the light that comes from them is constant and does not shimmer like a star. My question is that if they are supposed to be so far away, how can mere reflection cause them to be so bright in the sky. , are you telling me you can see the rings of "saturn"...or do you see a speck of a light that COULD be shaped like their cgi images of saturn? |
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Post by matt on Apr 16, 2015 16:40:49 GMT
Hi Lion - as far as I remember, the rings were clear enough through the telescope. I am not sure, though, why they cannot be rings or how that would affect the Earth being flat. I am very familiar with CGI images as I make them for a hobby and for a living, but Saturn was seen by my right eyeball, though, and I am not making it up. Yes, I never liked the notion that the stars, planets, etc. have to be named after pagan entities. |
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Post by aliveandkicking on Apr 16, 2015 16:50:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 16:52:56 GMT
So I get my reasonably powered telescope, and I point to , (where on this chart is TOLD TO ME), where any of the stars named after demon gods are, and I can see a speck of LIGHT like any other star. The images that they give us of what the planets look like through their CGI Hummana Hummana Hubble Telescope are NOT what I can see. Nor any other amateur astronomer that I know. Therefore NO planets. Yep, this is pretty much what happened to me with it. Once again, my five senses. And you're right, no "planets". |
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Post by Lion on Apr 16, 2015 16:54:49 GMT
Hi Lion - as far as I remember, the rings were clear enough through the telescope. I am not sure, though, why they cannot be rings or how that would affect the Earth being flat. I am very familiar with CGI images as I make them for a hobby and for a living, but Saturn was seen by my right eyeball, though, and I am not making it up. Yes, I never liked the notion that the stars, planets, etc. have to be named after pagan entities. Well, All i can say is I bought THIS telescope: www.amazon.com/Orion-SpaceProbe-Equatorial-Reflector-Telescope/dp/B00D05BKOW/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1429203091&sr=8-7&keywords=telescope , and even the reviewers are saying they see "planets" but all I see are white lights same as other stars. Every star has certain characteristics, but NOTHING like the CGI images we are shown to be the stars assigned demon names. |
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Post by Lion on Apr 16, 2015 16:56:36 GMT
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Post by aliveandkicking on Apr 16, 2015 17:01:04 GMT
Hi Lion - as far as I remember, the rings were clear enough through the telescope. I am not sure, though, why they cannot be rings or how that would affect the Earth being flat. I am very familiar with CGI images as I make them for a hobby and for a living, but Saturn was seen by my right eyeball, though, and I am not making it up. Yes, I never liked the notion that the stars, planets, etc. have to be named after pagan entities. Well, All i can say is I bought THIS telescope: www.amazon.com/Orion-SpaceProbe-Equatorial-Reflector-Telescope/dp/B00D05BKOW/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1429203091&sr=8-7&keywords=telescope , and even the reviewers are saying they see "planets" but all I see are white lights same as other stars. Every star has certain characteristics, but NOTHING like the CGI images we are shown to be the stars assigned demon names. Are you sure you are using that telescope correctly? Even mars looks different to other stars with the naked eye. I would have thought X 65 would show you something interesting about the planets. So that surprises me if you dont see much at all. |
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Post by aliveandkicking on Apr 16, 2015 17:03:29 GMT
That would mean there are hundreds of thousands of people all spending their times as a hobby wasting their time for no purpose at all. I just cannot believe that. A large number of these people get to view much larger telescopes from time to time because they are open for public viewing - at least for members of clubs. |
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Post by Lion on Apr 16, 2015 17:05:46 GMT
Surprised me too, until I woke up to the fact that there are NO PLANETS just stars. They used to call them "wandering stars". And yeah, I am using it correctly. Each star has certain characteristics but NOTHING like the exaggerated CGI images we are shown.
All of those images are inventions of man's mind in order to form a basis to worship the devils. And let's not get started on the red serpent tongue running across NASA's logo...bahahaha.
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Post by Lion on Apr 16, 2015 17:08:40 GMT
That would mean there are hundreds of thousands of people all spending their times as a hobby wasting their time for no purpose at all. I just cannot believe that. A large number of these people get to view much larger telescopes from time to time because they are open for public viewing - at least for members of clubs. It gets BETTER...CAN YOU BELIEVE...MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of people over the course of HUNDREDS of years believe that the earth is a ball spinning 1000+ MPH circling a sun at more enormous speed and the whole system of the earth and demon named planets are rolling around a galaxy at a more ridiculous speed. So the fact that there are no planets is a small issue. |
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Post by matt on Apr 16, 2015 17:21:20 GMT
Surprised me too, until I woke up to the fact that there are NO PLANETS just stars. They used to call them "wandering stars". And yeah, I am using it correctly. Each star has certain characteristics but NOTHING like the exaggerated CGI images we are shown. All of those images are inventions of man's mind in order to form a basis to worship the devils. And let's not get started on the red serpent tongue running across NASA's logo...bahahaha. Ok, so back when I was using my telescope, I saw this star that had rings around it... |
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Post by aliveandkicking on Apr 16, 2015 17:21:42 GMT
That would mean there are hundreds of thousands of people all spending their times as a hobby wasting their time for no purpose at all. I just cannot believe that. A large number of these people get to view much larger telescopes from time to time because they are open for public viewing - at least for members of clubs. It gets BETTER...CAN YOU BELIEVE...MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of people over the course of HUNDREDS of years believe that the earth is a ball spinning 1000+ MPH circling a sun at more enormous speed and the whole system of the earth and demon named planets are rolling around a galaxy at a more ridiculous speed. So the fact that there are no planets is a small issue. Your telescope is a nice beginners model at X 65 Googling showed me some examples of saturn at various magnifcations. www.astronomics.com/how-big-will-saturn-look-through-my-telescope_t.aspxThe engraving from 1865 is at least X 400 www.astronomics.com/how-big-will-saturn-look-through-my-telescope_t.aspx |
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Post by Lion on Apr 16, 2015 17:33:08 GMT
Wait, you said GOOGLING showed you some images. (begin eye roll sequence) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2015 17:33:51 GMT
That would mean there are hundreds of thousands of people all spending their times as a hobby wasting their time for no purpose at all. I just cannot believe that. A large number of these people get to view much larger telescopes from time to time because they are open for public viewing - at least for members of clubs. It gets BETTER...CAN YOU BELIEVE...MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of people over the course of HUNDREDS of years believe that the earth is a ball spinning 1000+ MPH circling a sun at more enormous speed and the whole system of the earth and demon named planets are rolling around a galaxy at a more ridiculous speed. So the fact that there are no planets is a small issue. ....and billions today. Very good point. People will generally go along with the consensus. |
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Post by aliveandkicking on Apr 17, 2015 5:03:26 GMT
Wait, you said GOOGLING showed you some images. (begin eye roll sequence) whats your point now? You are using videos shown on Google utube. |
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Post by LIT on Apr 17, 2015 6:11:56 GMT
matt Lion @jess Not sure what telescopes you have had, but you can clearly see that Saturn and Jupiter are different from regular stars. They might still be lights, but it doesn't mean that they are just dots like you said. You can see a lot of details. The images are not fake and a product of man's mind. Actually, if you're talking about the most fascinating images from space, yes, they are artist renditions. Buy yourself a better telescope!
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Post by aliveandkicking on Apr 17, 2015 7:45:22 GMT
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Post by LIT on Apr 17, 2015 7:46:53 GMT
aliveandkickingYeah, I know. I just wanted to show Lion that you can see the planets and that they are different than regular stars. You just need the proper equipment.
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Post by aliveandkicking on Apr 17, 2015 8:24:03 GMT
aliveandkickingYeah, I know. I just wanted to show Lion that you can see the planets and that they are different than regular stars. You just need the proper equipment. But wait there is more. From the same manufacturer of Lions $250 X65 beginners telescope you can pay just $123,000.00 and buy their monster 50inch dobsonian! "a 3mm Orion Edge-On Planetary Eyepiece will blow your mind at 1,588x"  telescopes.net/store/09162-50-inch-monster-dobsonian-telescope.htmlHomebuilt 42" dobsonian giving X 1600 magnification   |
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Post by sceptimatic on Apr 17, 2015 9:41:34 GMT
The trouble with us mere mortals is... we are programmed very early in life to follow a set pattern depending on where we live on the earth and by what religion and history is pushed into our psyche.
We are told that all the so called super scientists of old. The centuries upon centuries old scientists who managed to fathom out gravity and planets, etc, with their telescopes.
The problem is; in all seriousness...what the hell was their telescopes like that could solve all the problems. Who machined them so perfectly to cover the maginification and what not.
We struggle today to answer questions with the so called technology we have and yet references are always made to Newton and his pals if we struggle. It's brainwashing garbage at its ultimate.
It's putting named people on a massive pedestal, possibly because they had some kind of stance over the paupers of the day.
We're as gullible as all hell in this day and age. Can you imagige how gullible they were in those days?...and we are expected to live off tales of those days about all this supposed cosmological bullcrap and all the rest of the rubbish.
We refuse to use our common sense. We refuse to apply simple and the most basic logic to stuff. We refuse to take the back off the TV and rake around among the resistors and diodes, etc...prodding them with a pen in the hope that one prod will miraculously show us the problem with the TV.
The smart person will unplug it and check the fuse. The problem with the scientific world is, that's just too simplistic and dumbs down the science of what they try to push.
So next time you look up at the sky on a nice sunny day and then watch the sun disappear to reveal a black sky with pretty dotted lights....sit and think about those scientists...those so called genius people who spend hours and hours a day in a room just making up as much fantasy as they can muster to make sense of the so called universe above them.
They somehow can't accept that the universe they supposedly see could be a reflection of what's happening inside their own domed prison with the dome acting like the perfect mirror, reflecting everything back to their eyes from the central part of the Earth that they cannot view.
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Post by aliveandkicking on Apr 17, 2015 11:11:54 GMT
The trouble with us mere mortals is... we are programmed very early in life to follow a set pattern depending on where we live on the earth and by what religion and history is pushed into our psyche. We are told that all the so called super scientists of old. The centuries upon centuries old scientists who managed to fathom out gravity and planets, etc, with their telescopes. The problem is; in all seriousness...what the hell was their telescopes like that could solve all the problems. Who machined them so perfectly to cover the maginification and what not.part of the Earth that they cannot view. People mention Newton because humans have come a long way in the last few hundred years. The following picture was taken by an amateur using modest equipment in his back garden in michigan.  |
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does not make sense to me. Saturn is supposed to be 745 million miles from Earth, and we can see it in the sky simply by reflection. Hmmm. So when NASA's "Cassini" spacecraft took all the photos (and videos) of Saturn, shouldn't the light have been blinding? Hmmm.
