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Post by aliveandkicking on Apr 15, 2015 14:26:55 GMT
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Post by lordstevenchrist on Apr 19, 2015 20:21:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 21:46:14 GMT
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Post by aliveandkicking on Apr 20, 2015 5:09:46 GMT
1. In the northern hemisphere there are thousands of ordinary hobbyists living near the arctic circle who are able to make equipment that can rotate the camera to produce the 360 degree time lapse and yet very few videos are available. 2. Far fewer people are able to afford the journey to Antarctica The picture you like is possibly taken with the camera simply pointing upwards using a fish eye lens. To produce an ordinary looking video requires the camera to be on a platform that rotates once per day.
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Post by LIT on Apr 20, 2015 6:01:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 7:38:06 GMT
That video is not good enough for me because it is not as good as the ones from the North Pole. None of those videos Antarctica videos are as good as my best Arctic video, in that they do not show the full path of the sun in the sky.
And I am neither "trolling" nor "lying". It is time for you to accept that others won't always agree with you.
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Post by aliveandkicking on Apr 20, 2015 8:39:33 GMT
That video is not good enough for me because it is not as good as the ones from the North Pole. None of those videos Antarctica videos are as good as my best Arctic video, in that they do not show the full path of the sun in the sky. And I am neither "trolling" nor "lying". It is time for you to accept that others won't always agree with you. But you know that you have already got a reason why the best picture possible that anybody could make of midnight sun in antartica is not sufficient for you because your rejection depends on your faith in your lighthouse theory where you agree you do not have much awareness of the technicalities of the world around you and state your lack of knowledge of the world is not an important reason to reject your belief you are right. If you answer to Lit does not cover why you will reject the pictures no matter what they show then that is called being economical with the truth.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 8:45:16 GMT
I have enough knowledge to know that I am right about the lighthouses. I just don't like to show off my knowledge.
Your explanation of the reasons why there are no good videos of the midnight sun in Antarctica does not satisfy me. By now, with all the money they have, we should have a good video of the midnight sun in Antarctica, too.
I think it is time for you, too, to accept that people won't always agree with you, especially if you don't have any valid instruments of torture.
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Post by aliveandkicking on Apr 20, 2015 9:27:23 GMT
I have enough knowledge to know that I am right about the lighthouses. I just don't like to show off my knowledge. Your explanation of the reasons why there are no good videos of the midnight sun in Antarctica does not satisfy me. By now, with all the money they have, we should have a good video of the midnight sun in Antarctica, too. I think it is time for you, too, to accept that people won't always agree with you, especially if you don't have any valid instruments of torture. If you have knowledge of Earth, other than impressive knowledge of languages, it would be nice to see that at least sometimes. Evidently you seem quite happy to demonstrate your knowledge of English and German while saying you are actually an Italian. You are therefore more or less trilingual and not shy of allowing others to know that.
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Post by LIT on Apr 20, 2015 9:32:41 GMT
flat earth truthWell, I am sure if they knew so many people would care about it and few videos won't be enough, they would have provided 1000 videos(actually what is the acceptable number for you to believe it is real?). By the way, I am sure if you send an e-mail to one of the research stations there, you should expect to see many more videos on youtube in the near future. However, I don't think you would believe they are real either. You have already made up your mind that they are fake. What is necessary to convince you they are real? This is a serious question. As for the lighthouses, although this is not the place to discuss it, I very much doubt that you're the only person in the world who has knowledge of that topic, but you're probably the only one who claims the visibility ranges are wrong. How do you explain that?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 9:45:31 GMT
We clearly don't agree. I don't have to be tortured for my opinions. You two have belittled my research and my opinions enough. I won't debate these two subjects with you two any longer. I have not belittled your opinions, nor your research. Go debate with someone who enjoys debating as much as you do: serendipitous.boards.net/thread/134/splat-earth-theory
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 7:21:36 GMT
ifers.boards.net/post/6419/threadI just found this video - which not only shows the sun rising in June in Antarctica - but also shows a whole lot of weird anomolies. A fire? some kind of energy ball... and at 1.37 - you can see a laser beam come out of the ball!! Jun 18, entire building of Neumayer Station is "swallowed" by giant light dome. - YouTube: by imstillucalien: www.youtube.com/channel/UCXh9UtKSg7-GarTtnmEFICg
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Post by LIT on May 10, 2015 8:39:01 GMT
flat earth truthThat is not the Sun in the video from Neumayer Station. Are people blind? Is this the Sun as well?
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Post by XPLRY on Jul 6, 2015 9:40:13 GMT
I’ve also been thinking about this question and I would like share my thoughts about my theory to try and verify 24/7 sunlight in Antarctica on a Flat Earth;
What if the Sun ascends once a year and descends once a year, still circling around the center of the earth (north-pole), but instead of making larger/smaller circles or spirals, gaining higher and lower altitudes (once high, once low a year with the solstice) and the Sun’s light beam making a larger and smaller spotlight on the earth, thus the light reaching further North and South in June, while almost no sunlight/darkness in December in North and South. Following my theory, the summer in the Arctic and Antarctica is in June, and both have indeed 24 hours light, while complete darkness in December. The Sun elevating a certain distance higher/lower. I thought that due to conditions in the atmosphere it might be possible for heat and light to reach far enough North and South to have a summer there (on high) while Australia and New Zealand having their winter as usual and vice versa (on low).
It’s very hard for me to verify any information regarding Antarctica and sources such as Jeffrey Donenfeld whom claims 24/7 sunlight in his video titled "Enerplex in Antarctica" cannot be verified either, and although this guy is a bit funny, the title implies a commercial for a Solar-panel and/or perhaps his other brand new gear? Otherwise I can imagine that students and scientist have to sign a contract with the military, and perhaps have to lie because non-24/7-light is classified information?
What does anyone think of my theory? If it’s interesting I can make some images to illustrate how this works out on the flat earth map, I also have to program something in PHP to calculate the (sunrise/sunset/hours-of-light) at various distances from the poles because manually I came to some surprising results, by doing so I assume that if I measure roughly 5000km from the Poles in Google Earth to say Antarctica to Hobart (Australia) for example, and then measure from the Arctic to Bordeaux (France) which is 25m above sea level near the coast. Measuring from the absolute center of each pole, I expect to have the same total hours of daylight at those locations in each summer and winter? Perhaps I am unaware of a ‘scientific’ explanation if the total daylight hours differ much? I can also confirm that the midnight Sun at the North Cape in Norway 2000 KM south of the North Pole is only fully visible on (and around) June 21, where it just stays above the horizon the whole day.
Thank you all for your valuable information, I am fascinated about the Flat Earth and I am currently reading some of the old books on the subject as well, very interesting theory so far which seems to make a lot more sense than the globe, I never really got it when I was kid, while the Flat Earth theory seems very natural to me.
Cheers, XPLRY
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Post by LIT on Jul 7, 2015 10:15:07 GMT
flat earth truthWelcome back to the forum. Why do you believe there isn't midnight Sun in Antarctica? One can doubt that Iceland exists too, but where is the reasoning behind this?
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Post by LIT on Jul 7, 2015 21:15:37 GMT
How can you tell where the video is from? North or South Pole? Apart from this, the videos from the Amundsen-Scott South Pole station seem very real to me. What is fake about them? Is it the same kind of reasoning as "the Earth seems flat, so it can't be round"?
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Post by LIT on Jul 8, 2015 6:04:34 GMT
flat earth truthSo when exactly is a video convincing enough? Just go, talk to or meet anyone who works at the South Pole or better go there yourself. At least then, you wouldn't have to waste your time believing, but you would know. Have you tried to talk to anyone who has been to the South Pole? I doubt it. You just like to deny. I can deny you're from Italy too, or I can say you're a girl, or I can say you're Eric Dubay. Do you see how stupid believing in something just because you feel like it is? What I am saying is you need to have evidence for every claim you make! No one cares about what you believe in or what it seems to you, if you have no evidence.
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Post by LIT on Jul 9, 2015 16:50:36 GMT
Why do I have to do all the work all the time? And especially such heavy work as going to the South Pole. The videos are not the same: one thing is the many videos that show the whole path of the sun in the sky for 24 hours at the North Pole, and another thing are the videos from the South Pole that don't show it. You don't have to do any work. However, you can't expect people to accept your opinion either. The videos were not made for people like you. Their purpose wasn't to convince you the Earth is round. Actually, no scientist cares about what some people on youtube think.The thing is that it is stupid to claim something is true if you can't prove it. This is especially so, if your claim denies what everyone else says. How can you argue with people if you don't have any evidence?
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Post by LIT on Jul 9, 2015 21:51:22 GMT
I'm not claiming it, but I'm not denying it either. Basically, such an approach leads to nowhere and the discussion is over. How exactly is it beneficial to anyone to claim things with no evidence whatsoever? Maybe for entertainment purposes it's fine, but otherwise it is pretty much void of meaning.
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Post by truthseekr on Nov 12, 2015 12:09:54 GMT
Wow, no posts for 4 months. Is this still happening? After being banned from Ifers for telling the truth about 2 flights I took from Sydney to Santiago (which according to the guys at Ifers are bogus flights, don't exist)......I got banned on my 3rd post. I had prepared this post about the Antarctic, but did not get a chance to submit. So just found this forum tonight and see that acenci doesn't believe their is midnight sun in the Antarctic either. Eric also believes all the days are very short throughout the year. This is totally wrong. I have been there. I don't have any videos, but here is my post as it would have been (would have been banned for sure). This is what I wrote:
Hello Eric, I am having trouble reconciling the light source in the Antarctic. Do you think there is any possibility of another sun (apart from Rahu, the black sun)? In the Antarctic winter there is a period of no sun all day, from mid-June to the end of June. Then the days have a little light (about an hour) a type of twilight, gradually extending until the end of November, when there is a 22-hour day.
I have been to the Antarctic for a 3-week trip in 2008. I flew from Sydney to Santiago (direct flight). I have checked the flight details and it took 17 hours and 15 minutes. Does this sound possible on the flat earth model? I am not sure how to work it out.
I was not in Antarctica around the solstice, it was early March, but the days were about 14 hours long. There are sight-seeing flights from Australia and New Zealand and I have rung for the details. The sun (?) shines all day from December 1st until January 12th. On New Year’s Eve you can fly to the Antarctic from Melbourne and you will see the first icebergs after 3 hours. The flight leaves at 6:30pm. They have 19 different flight plans they decide from depending on the weather, to give you the best (cloudless) view, but it is daylight the entire time. When you get to the continent they fly around for 4 hours before heading back to Australia. I am very tempted to take the trip to see what is visible. I guess they will not take us anywhere sensitive to reveal that the earth is flat, or ends at the outer edge. It is also very expensive.
The Antarctic has been my passion for many years and I have read several books of the early explorers of the “Heroic Age”, such as Scott, Shackleton and Mawson. I am very sure that the light is as it is told about in these books and verified on timeanddate.com. An example, at Casey Station today, 6th November, the sun rose at 3:30am and will set at 9:16pm with nautical twilight for the rest of the night. In Melbourne (where I live) we share the same time zone as Casey Station. Today the sun rose at 6:09am and will set at 7:59pm. Our day is about 4 hours shorter than that at Casey Station in the Antarctic, and we are 2387 miles further north.
There has to be some explanation for this phenomenon? I am convinced that we do not live on a spinning globe, but I am at a loss to explain the light in the Antarctic. I can see from your comments that you do not believe there is this light, so you are not investigating, but I am continuing research in this area, and I will post anything I can come up with.
Actually, Casey Station shows on the “map” as being below Perth, which is 3 hours difference in time to Melbourne. Hmmmm why does it show as in Melbourne’s time zone. I think I will look further into this.
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Post by truthseekr on Nov 14, 2015 5:51:46 GMT
I had a look at the video. That gentleman was making guesses while perusing the map. His knowledge of the area was zilch! Yes, on my trip we did venture into the cove of Deception Bay, anchored and went ashore in rubber zodiacs. The bay is a caldera similar to Santorini (Greek Island). So the sand is black. It is a bit creepy with rusting vats where they stored whale oil many years ago. Some people used to dig away the sand and lie in the warm waters (from the volcano I guess), but I believe that since the treaty this is not allowed. Yes, it was a precious experience going to Antarctica. It is a beautiful place, and not always as cold as depicted. As our expedition followed in the footsteps of Ernest Shackleton, we went to the Peninsula first. There are many places where you can go ashore. The ice wall is formidable in parts (as photos show), but every day we took the zodiacs into shore and jumped out in our gumboots and waded in. Our trip also went to Elephant Island, South Georgia (where Shackleton is buried) and the Falklands. I thought I would ring the company I went away with in 2008 to inquire about the sun in December and January, but then found my brochure they had sent me for the next year's expeditions. And I quote: Midsummer December to Early February * Nearly 24-hours of daylight * Penguins constantly feeding chicks * Skuas hunt penguin chicks from the air * Leopard seals feed on penguins * Weddell seals moult ashore * Humpback whales arrive, bubble-net feeding * King penguin parents and chicks crowd colonies * Elephant seal mothers suckle their pups (weaners)
If you choose to spend Christmas or New Year in Antarctica......."With 24 hours of daylight, we pack in continental landings, visits to historic sites and scientific stations, and perhaps an after-dinner zodiac cruise." They can't advertise this if it doesn't happen. I haven't seen it (I was there in March), but without doubt the sun is around all day from end of November to the second week of January. My small ship (40 passengers) was Polar Pioneer and the company is Aurora Expeditions.
I will register later, have to go now.
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