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Post by cobracommander on May 15, 2015 14:43:18 GMT
According to the news media and Peter James. Yeah, those are real realiable sources.  Bust out a telescope and prove it. Otherwise, this is useless info. What do you mean? Can't you see the photos? Photographic evidence does not fly in this day and age of heavy photo and video fakery. Observable science is the only tool we really have. I would need science experiments that I could perform at home and see with my very own eyes. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 15, 2015 4:42:34 GMT
According to the news media and Peter James. Yeah, those are real realiable sources. Bust out a telescope and prove it. Otherwise, this is useless info. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 15, 2015 4:38:22 GMT
During my phone call to Mark Sargent, I asked him to plug this board on his Strange World Episode 2 radio show, which he did if you listen to about the last 7 minutes.
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Post by cobracommander on May 11, 2015 22:33:52 GMT
hmmm... How did you find Eric on there? Every time I use the search function, it comes up with zero finds with both Mark and Eric's names. I don't know if it's because I'm using a smart phone to do it or what not. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 11, 2015 19:04:48 GMT
Oh, I see. Someone who denies everything wants others to prove stuff to him. What is the point? You already think they are liars. i don't think they are liars... I know they are liars. I used a process called estimating. To get to their so called 1.35 billion population, the population outside of China's 10 biggest cities would need to be more than 13 times greater. I'm not buying what they're selling. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 11, 2015 18:32:51 GMT
cobracommanderProvide evidence that the Chinese censuses are wrong. You can't just state stuff and expect us to believe you. Do the cities seem smaller only to you? Do they seem smaller to their residents as well? Who cares what they seem to anyone anyway when you can count the number of residents! In fact, every city has a known population, and this is kept track of at the local level as well. Please provide proof for your claims. It seems to me, it feels like and so on are not proof. The news media have nothing to do with counting the number of people who live anywhere. No, logic doesn't tell you anything, it is your IMPRESSION that the cities are smaller. You have no facts to corroborate your claim at all. Your logic is 1500 apples seem like 500 apples, therefore 1500 apples are not 1500 apples but 500 apples. Please! Prove to me that their numbers are accurate and are not fabricated. You can't. You are taking proven liars word for truth. Find me proof of 160+ New York City's in China. Are you saying the rural parts of China are more populated than the big cities? Where I'm from, rural areas are small towns with small populations. There is no way that rural China population outnumbers big city China population. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 11, 2015 15:50:49 GMT
It is not hard to keep track of the deaths and the births. What you're suggesting is just preposterous. I am sorry, but that is how I feel about it. There might be slight differences, but definitely not such huge discrepancies. Why do you think we have population censuses? China doesn't have 10 cities over 1 million, it has many more, that is not even counting the smaller towns and villages: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_China_by_populationEven small countries like the Netherlands have close to 17 million people! You can't make up stuff and expect people to agree with you. Actually, such things are not even debatable. You can even extract a list of all the town, cities and villages of any country by population! If you suggested that the Great Chinese Wall wasn't that ancient, I would likely agree, but suggesting that the censuses are drastically different than reality is just ridiculous, especially when you cannot back it up. I can't make up stuff and expect people to agree with me? You mean like make up that China has 160 New York City's, like our so called world leaders have made up, and expect us to believe them? Their stats are exaggerated garbage. I travel all over the U.S. for my line of work, and every city I go to seems to be a lot smaller than what the News Media made them out to be. You're free to believe their lies, but I'm not going to. Logic tells me their population is BS. I can see it in my own city. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 11, 2015 3:38:22 GMT
Yep, the numbers are bs and are used to support the global warming and thus control can be implemented to bar is from the almost abundant resources of the earth They could be using the depopulation agenda to terrorize us and push us into a fear of the upcoming genocide, I fact there will be no genocide That is most likely the reason for them making up a fake population number. It keeps people talking about FEMA death camps and all that crap. People are stuck in fear, when there is really nothing to fear. An inflated population also allows them to inflate deaths in wars and make up fake victims in psy-ops. More fear propaganda. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 10, 2015 3:05:53 GMT
It is hard to keep track of the number of people on this planet , everyday there are babies and coffins, a 10 year consensus is impossible and counting the number of people is downright impossible, only God does know the real number of humans on earth, but if 7 billion was an estimate , then it could be a horrible one I used the closest numbers I could find, 2013. Imagine this... China's alleged population would be like having a country of 160 New York City's. There is no possible way that country is as populated as 160 NYC's! Total BS!!! |
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Post by cobracommander on May 10, 2015 2:11:56 GMT
LiT,
I've explained that the most accurate way to solve the population hoax is by looking at the actual city populations, where they most likely used some similar form of the Census Bureau to calculate people in the cities. They can pull country population numbers out of their arse and just make it up. Take my calculation of the 10 largest cities in China and even times it by 6... it's still Less than half of the alleged population of China. Accepting their word that the population is 1.357 billion from a map they made up is like accepting the image of the Earth as real. You know what I mean? I took 10 very large cities and multiplied it by 6, and the population is still not near close. Something very fishy is up with that.
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Post by cobracommander on May 9, 2015 23:28:13 GMT
We are running a banner at IFERS that says we offer "freedom of speech and respect": View AttachmentThere is freedom of speech, almost complete. However, respect has been lacking lately. Please help us out. One can say "you're an idiot" but one can also say "I believe you're not assessing these facts correctly, and I am very resentful for your statements". One can say "This person is a shill" but one can also say "I don't see any grounds for the assertions he is making" or "his assertions do not convince sßme at all". Or one could simply state some facts (e.g.: "This person seems to be linked with NASA, because..."). without using any derogatory terms to draw conclusions. I brought up fair points in every post, and did not use the ad-hominem attacks in revenge of ad-hominem attacks in any post. I laid out one of the many proofs Peter James is a shill, and a respectful debate would have stated why he isn't. That would be a hard task to do, because the evidence is very damning. The shill word may seem derogatory, because it has been unjustly been used on innocent people (by real shills trying to tarnish the word). The definition of the word shill is a plant or a stooge put in place by an organization or a person to disrupt a group of people. Throwing out the term shill with no proof is wrong. In this case, I had every right to use the correct term for this Peter James stooge/plant. He's a no good dirty rotten scoundrel trying to sell a bunch of lies to the public. The more of these fake Truthers that are exposed, the more clear the real truth can become. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 9, 2015 11:07:52 GMT
China
1.357 billion alleged population in 2013
10 largest cities in 2013
Shanghai 22 mill
Beijing 19 mil
Tianjin 11 mill
Guangzhou 11 mill
Shenzhen 10 mill
Dongguan 8 mill
Taipei 8 mill
Chengdu 7 mill
Hong Kong 7 mill
Hangzhou 7 mill
=110,000,000
Double that population to account for the other cities and rural areas...
=220,000,000
Triple that population...
330,000,000
That's more than a billion off the 1.357 Billion mark
I personally believe it's closer to that 220,000,000 mark.
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Post by cobracommander on May 9, 2015 10:40:15 GMT
No, but I can grab the population of the largest cities in China and come to a closer estimate than their inflated country population number. They don't expect people to do this math, so they can throw out a fake population number of the entire country, while posting a more realistic number for the cities. I'm sure I can simplify proving the hoax by focusing on China alone and proving there is not What..3 billion people living there? I focused heavily on China already, and I know I'm not going to come close to that number. There is a major flaw in the country and city populations where they screwed up big time.
China can be key to me solving.this hoax without wasting much time with all the other countries.
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Post by cobracommander on May 9, 2015 9:15:10 GMT
eric dubay and mark sargent came much after flat earth got attention rising again the whole work has been done before and just been polished by these guys and used for attention and maybe more - what should they do if the fe gets too big...infiltrate the opposition and raise all attention to the shills - possible? Flat Earth was years in the making. I'm of the belief this has been the plan since before the Moon Mission Hoax. The movie propaganda has ramped up in recent years, and will really start to pick up this year. George Lucas didn't want to make these Star Wars because he wanted no part in this Flat Earth reveal. JJ Abrams originally said no, and had to be begged to do it. Remember, Disney were the ones pushing this, whom have major ties to the space hoax. This has been years and years in the planning, much like the 9/11 predictive programming being forced upon us before the towers were even built. The Halo 5 campaign also discusses Star Wars, which is odd. I highly suspect we've been lead to this path by TPTB. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 9, 2015 8:51:53 GMT
There are 500 million people in the world. I released a video on this weeks ago. The way to figure out the approximate number of people in the world is to grab the 3 or 4 most populated cities in every state and country. To get the most accurate number, take the number of all these cities added up and times it by 2 to account for the rural areas. The number you come up with will closely resemble what the Georgia Guidestones says. In order to maintain this population, they are not looking for a real cure for cancer in the sudden growth of Heroin. They overprescribed opiates and opioids on purpose, and then people got addicted. They then made it hard for pain patients to obtain the opiate/opioid medications with their new restrictions on prescribing the medications. Many of these pain patients who were not junkies before turned to Herion for pain relief, and are now dying at an alarming rate. I am certain this was part of their plan all along for population control. I hear at least one story a day of some lost soul passing away from Herion overdose. A lot of people say 9/11 was about oil. I believe it was about opium. Didn't the Taliban stop production of opium.
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Post by cobracommander on May 9, 2015 8:29:44 GMT
I found out that Dave J is another 95% truther. He is rehashing other people's researching this one. Dave J did excellent work, until he went Dallas Goldbug in his recent videos call Prince Charles Richard Branson, and some other dude from possibly another shooting he called Wdward Norton, and that sealed he iisnt telling the the full truth.
As far as JFK, he is right though. They used a dummy with a squib, cut frames from the Zapruder film, and did the scene twice with the other video. You add to all this that there was hardly any blood on Jackie Kennedy and very little blood in the car... Case closed. They don't kill anybody in any of these hoaxes.
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Post by cobracommander on May 9, 2015 7:00:25 GMT
You want me to share the rest of that Skype conversation, Sith Lord Steve? Here you go...
"That makes no sense, and I didn't attack you. Nothing I said was wrong."
Sounds like somebody is upset that I showed Peter James Kuehlen's agenda? Is it because you use research from that proven fraud to back up your theory? I haven't watched your videos, but somebody who has said you do on multiple occasions. Only video I watched of yours just happened to be the same Chicago Skyline across Lake Michigan video.
Since you seem to be buddies with Peter Kuehlen, why don't you ask him why he says Nibiru, Planet X, Nemisis are coming to destroy is from outer space? Then ask him how that would be if he believed in a concave Earth, there would technically be just an inner space? There's no possible way to have a Nibiru and Nemisis in an in closed Earth that are coming to destroy us.
After you finish asking him them questions, ask him where we can see all those beautiful satellite pictures of the concave earth or convex earth of both the Earrh shapes he endorsed are?
You seem very very paranoid about this Peter James Expose'.
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Post by cobracommander on May 9, 2015 4:00:02 GMT
Eric Dubay is a shill. Schpanke is a shill. Zhib is a shill. Everyone is a shill. Anyone who thinks people are serious about this is a shill. If you don't agree with me you will be put in a detention camp by Steve himself. Not everyone is a shill, but we'll soon find out that most of the Flat Earth truth and.truth community in general are shills. Even people you may like & respect could be playing you to sway you into their truth. This sudden Flat earth popularity was all by design. They knew the moon landing movie effects were going to age. This is a plan that is decades in the making, if not centuries. Do you think the 3 Star Wars movies that will be out within the next 2 years just happens to be another so called coincidence? Why push these space propaganda movies out in abundance as fast as possible? The title alone should alone should be a clear indication all this is by design. The Force Awakens as the real world awakens??? Another so called coincidence??? What's all this have to do with this thread? The "shills" you named are part of this campaign. They are alot of good Flat Earthers that care about the truth, but the top few have an interior motive that goes into the plans they have in store fir us. Our goal should be to not fall into this trap they set. Expose the phoney characters on both sides of the argument. Find our own truth, not theirs. Btw... I was referring to everyone who reads this when I said you, and not directly to you LIT. My phone battery is about to die, so I my have to edit my post later to make more sense out of what I see is taking place now. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 7, 2015 3:03:21 GMT
He is a freelance independent contractor. He can tell you he doesn't work for each organization, and being independent, he technically doesn't work for these companies. I'm an independent catastrophe property adjuster. I know how this works. He probably signed an NDA, so he can't admit it until the NDA expires, if it does expire. Your comment made me think of Matt Boylan. If I recall, he was really a freelancer (right?) but at first I got the idea he worked for NASA. But he was an independent contractor. Also, would they have given him an NDA too? it depends. In my field, they make me repeatedly sign NDA's and security access agreements, so the further he got into the company info, the more he found out. It is a little strange to break the news to him at a party instead of going straight to a meeting at NASA corporate offices where they make him sign an NDA from the start. I mean, I've had to sign an NDA just to interview for a job, so why tell him the news at a party? But, seeing how sloppy NASA is, Matt's story could very well be true. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 6, 2015 22:38:38 GMT
what the fuck is your problem? you really gonna ignore me? okie dokie, champ. my video is enough proof he is a shill. I can go on about how he pushed the Transasia Hoax as real, and. I caught him in yet another lie, or I could share messages between him and I that prove it again. I don't need to, though. Anyone with common sense can watch my vid and easily see he is shilling for 2 separate Earth models. He's also shilling the alien agenda hoax. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 6, 2015 2:58:29 GMT
It is all part of the plan, I would say to ignore the guy and continue on spreading the truth, calling someone a shill may not change anything, can lead to something worse. Most of us have this small hatred against the System, I do to, but hatred will add more fire to the fire Speaking of fire, how hot can the hottest temperature be under the flat earth? How cold can things get?  showing people who are the shills helps lead them away from the path of disinformation, so they can find the true truth. If we just sit back and allow people to mislead people without questioning their suspiciocious actions, then nobody will ever take us serious researchers serious. I'm not calling the guy a shill. He is a shill. A shill is a plant, a stooge. He's guilty as charged. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 6, 2015 1:35:13 GMT
Haha! Steve, Peter James is the most obvious shill on YouTube. I got him so flustered that he called me at home. His NASA employment is a major red flag. well what did he say? you should really investigate matters first before you label people. but you should understand this, there is no effort by nasa or any other org to push concave earth, because it's the truth, and they don't like pushing truth. Steve, I've investigated Peter James Kuehlen for 4 months, once he started stalking me. I've got more than enough evidence this guy is a definite shill. If I were you, I'd be pretty upset a NASA agent is hijacking your theory and tarnishing your work by saying the Earth is Concave, but pushing this Planet X and Nemisis garbage for the Convex Earth theory. If he's a good dude, ask him where these images are he interpreted so you can finally prove Concave theory. You know what's strange... He said he believes the Earth is Concave even though he had access to NASA satellite imagery. Wouldn't somebody that had access to those images KNOW the Earth was concave and not just BELIEVE it was concave??? Peter J Kuehlen has some serious explaining to do |
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Post by cobracommander on May 5, 2015 20:51:31 GMT
lol this Anthony guy is retarded. Pete is not a shill. Haha! Steve, Peter James is the most obvious shill on YouTube. I got him so flustered that he called me at home. His NASA employment is a major red flag. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 5, 2015 13:57:31 GMT
This guy hurts the concave earth theory just by him endorsing it...
He's a NASA employee!!!
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Post by cobracommander on May 4, 2015 16:58:18 GMT
I see he has a truth threshold. A certain amount of truth he is allowed to tell before he isn't allowed to go any further. A myth he has to keep alive. It's a common theme with all agents. There are certain subjects that are off limits to them, so they have to avoid the subject completely, or support the alternative garbage theory. In his case, it's DEW. He tells you 95% truth and 5% Fearporn. DEW is a major red flag. Every popular YouTube channel that supports DEW, I have exposed as agents. Betsy McGee, White Rabbit, etc....
We can save this subject for a later time, though.
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Post by cobracommander on May 4, 2015 16:23:53 GMT
Yes, absolutely, and furthermore it is free. I did my small part. I invite everyone else to do their small part, too, for free. You just have to click a few buttons on this page: Anthony B. - YouTubeacenci, the video that Eric got the clips for "Mark Sargent Rading Shill Clues" is an episode of South Park. The end of the episode describes IFERS perfectly. They are the same as Flat Earth Society, whom they act like they hate, but they really play on the same team. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 4, 2015 16:05:46 GMT
Yes, I already subscribed to your YouTube channel, and liked your videos from two different accounts. I will do it for all your videos when I get home. I invite everyone to subscribe to your channel, too. More details at the top of this thread: serendipitous.boards.net/post/2808/threadAt this point, you were proven to be right by events, given that they first offered you a place on the show, and then took it back. However, let us still keep a respectful attitude and tone to Mark Sargent, because we don't know why people do what they do: whether agents for the government, or employees of any company. I believe we should even respect the devil in person. Now that you have successfully concluded your investigation, do not feel mad, but satisfied. And congratulations, by the way. And I advise you not to take any more risks, because you've taken enough risks at it is. Now it's up to the truthers to become aware of the truth or keep believing lies (whichever theory they believe). Truth does not make you popular anyway, so don't worry about not having become a star on their radio show. acenci, I just want the truth to get out. I don't know if dislikes makes a video harder to find. I've heard that rumor. I made the connections very well in that video, and I will be very upset if it gets buried by sock puppet accounts or pay-to-click companies. If they were real people that cared about the subject, there'd be at least a comment or 2 in the comments. I'm not begging for subs. i just ask people to fight back against this bs. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 4, 2015 8:51:32 GMT
I'm super upset. Also, very upset at Mark Sargent's cohost for lying to me saying I can do guest segments (his idea) on their radio show, and flipping his story with lies. I'm fired up now, and that's not good for the Bungie Network.
acenci already knows this, but a major character in this conspiracy controversy verbally admitted to the connection I said all along. I promised I wouldn't tell anybody they said it, so technically it's up to you guys to guess who(not a hard guess). Them cutting the "Fireworks" video to just the part about myself and Cae sar and releasing on YouTube was an attack on both of us to make us look crazy, so that's why I gave you guys a big clue.
This is me calling out that bs video they made and exposing him as a corporate shill
This video below you may have already seen. I give clues to why Bungie uses a person named Mark Sargent and even tied his hometown to Bungie headquarters. For one week, there were zero dislikes. The shills decided to attack with their sock puppet accounts and disliked the video 7 times within a few minutes yesterday. They did "7" for a reason... Occult reason. I ask anybody that thinks these clues were good to please click like on this vid so that future viewers aren't turned away by their sock puppet dislike clicks.
Thank you in advance
Btw... Look in the comments of my first video. Johnathan M. discussed talking on the phone, but erased all his comments afterward where he lost his mind and started spouting off lies. You can see my responses, but none of his remarks.
You guys/girls wanted to find out who this mysterious Mark Sargent character is... Well now the true colors are coming out about the Marketing Sargent campaign.
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Post by cobracommander on May 4, 2015 1:05:54 GMT
On the other hand, the guy is an actor and he can act and change his accent, pitch of voice etc. So I can't be really sure. In this video he does an impression of Obama(it is the other guy, but same thing..): I know the answers LIT, and Bungie is trying their damnedest to stop me from revealing their secret so soon. They need this hype to last till launch in late October. It won't make it beyond May. |
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Post by cobracommander on May 3, 2015 18:15:57 GMT
So, cobracommander, according to your research, he is not a government agent, because this might be part of a video game marketing campaign, right? He is a freelance independent contractor. He can tell you he doesn't work for each organization, and being independent, he technically doesn't work for these companies. I'm an independent catastrophe property adjuster. I know how this works. He probably signed an NDA, so he can't admit it until the NDA expires, if it does expire. |
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