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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 2:49:00 GMT
The word "shill" seems more important to certain forums than even the subject of the flat earth. I call Eric Dubay a shill, based on him talking about the flat earth, but then turning people off to the flat earth with his psychotic behavior. That makes Eric as shill as they come. But the word is that Mark Sargent is a shill. So I went and listened to his latest video, which is called "Is Mark Sargent a shill?". What a title. And this guy, he doesn't sound like someone to me on a payroll. They're usually more crafty than him. By far. I have met online, people that I was sure they were on a payroll. And Mark Sargent doesn't come off that way. What Mark does come off as, in this latest video, is useless in terms of getting real information. There's really nothing there that can be called, information. So I had to go back and think over the "Flat Earth Clues" series, where he did something like 11 parts (and growing?). There was little to nothing in any of those videos, that was real information. At all. The flat earth topic is all the rage right now. So people are ingesting it every place they can, from every person they can. So they go to Mark Sargent, and they get a lot of whimsical waxing philosophical. They go to Eric Dubay, and they get called a shill for disagreeing on anything that's ever emanated from his personage (the person that calls everyone a shill, is almost always themselves the shill in reality). You could argue that these guys are trying, I suppose, to feed a hungry public. And nobody knows what is really going on. Mark Sargent, the way he talks, doesn't seem to actually be sure what he believes. He wants to call the earth a roulette wheel, then he wants to call the earth something else. If he's not sure what he believes, then how can he instruct anyone? So him getting tagged with the "shill" label, seems silly. He seems more like a guy that likes to bloviate, and he found the hot topic, the flat earth, to do it with. Call me a "shill" for saying all of this.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 8:49:15 GMT
Oh, yes, the "Is Mark Sargent a shill?" interview: I posted it and commented it here: serendipitous.boards.net/thread/20/mark-sargent?page=2&scrollTo=783Regarding Eric and Mark, whatever I think of them (even when I feel a lot of resentment), I try to not pass any final judgments, and especially not to call them with any derogatory terms ("shill", "useless"), because then we lose all hope of speaking to them, convincing them, affecting those who surround us... Even Alex Jones might be useful to the world. We know he is not completely free, that he might be working for the enemy, but even the enemy... could become our friend tomorrow. Take John Todd, who was a satanic priest for the Illuminati. He turned out to be a martyr for the truthers. Why? Because a priest kept trying to convert him. In the same way we should keep our doors open to the enemy. Not so open that he can destroy us, but give him a chance to change and be accepted by us. We should not condemn the person as a whole, but only their sin. We should reward the good behaviors, praise them, and denounce the bad behaviors. Dismissing them as "useless" or "shills" does not achieve this objective in my opinion. I am just preaching as usual, and I know I have dismissed people as "trolls" before, and I made a mistake. Regarding Mark, the problem maybe is that his documentaries are so polished that people expect him to know more about flat earth than he knows. Then also, maybe he is an agent. But until proven, we cannot accuse him of it would be offensive. It would be as if you have a cleaning lady working at your house, and something disappears, and you go and accuse her of stealing. I think you should suspect her but not say anything.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 1:44:08 GMT
Acenci, "Mark Sargent" (in quotes because he could be an actor playing the role of Mark Sargent), the one in the interviews, IS FOR SURE not the "Mark Sargent" that made those videos. When making the vids he had a prepared script which he read from...however, based on his manner of speech and his responses to the questions, the "Mark Sargent" in the interviews is NOT the "Mark Sargent" that prepared the scripts for the videos.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 2:31:39 GMT
It sounds like a very observant remark. I hadn't heard this remark from anyone before. We will see how things will evolve. If this is true, they won't be able to hide it for much longer.
We must remember however how nice he was when we wrote him emails about the flight routes. He had nothing to gain from us, @jess and I. We exchanged a lot of emails asking the same exact questions, and he was nice from the first to the last email.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2015 2:42:01 GMT
It sounds like a very observant remark. I hadn't heard this remark from anyone before. We will see how things will evolve. If this is true, they won't be able to hide it for much longer. We must remember however how nice he was when we wrote him emails about the flight routes. He had nothing to gain from us, @jess and I. We exchanged a lot of emails asking the same exact questions, and he was nice from the first to the last email. Again, and here is the problem, you were assuming that the emails you received from "Mark Sargent" were actually written by the "Mark Sargent" in the interview videos. In every interview the actor known as "Mark Sargent" hits the same "talking points"...HOWEVER, notice, that on occasion, if he is asked an aside question that HE SHOULD KNOW the answer to based on the videos, he will stumble and bumble around with the response. The whole thing sounds like a side-ways Cyrano de Bergerac...LOLOL
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