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Post by LIT on May 16, 2015 8:19:49 GMT
steveOnce again, if convex Earth is impossible then concave Earth is impossible too. Not sure how you can be so biased.
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Post by steve on May 16, 2015 13:34:18 GMT
meausrements, experimentation. problem?
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Post by Vanishing pointer on May 18, 2015 11:20:05 GMT
The vanishing point is the horizon. And the horizon on the flat earth is a ilusion. Our eyes have a CONIC VISION /\. When something go past the vanishing point, like the sun, it seems to "go down". See perspective diagrams to undertand.
So it's not the earth that curves, but our natural optical vision.
My guess ( since it's hard to do a experiment) is that the sun maintain his apparent size because of the atmosphere. If you look after images of sunsets, you see that the sun gets distorted close to the "horizon".
Here is a good video on that:
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Post by LIT on May 18, 2015 12:06:36 GMT
The vanishing point is the horizon. And the horizon on the flat earth is a ilusion. Our eyes have a CONIC VISION /\. When something go past the vanishing point, like the sun, it seems to "go down". See perspective diagrams to undertand. So it's not the earth that curves, but our natural optical vision. My guess ( since it's hard to do a experiment) is that the sun maintain his apparent size because of the atmosphere. If you look after images of sunsets, you see that the sun gets distorted close to the "horizon". Here is a good video on that: Yeah, sure. The Sun is visible after it sets, but our eyes can't see it. Really? Are you saying it is an illusion that it gets dark?
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Post by steve on May 18, 2015 13:40:59 GMT
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Post by jerome davis on Feb 1, 2016 23:23:02 GMT
Okay, I was looking at it horizontally, lol. :-D Could the waves account for that? As we aren't dealing with flat water etc.... The bottom portion of those buildings are obscured .... due to illusion of flat plain properties . Flat plain illusions occurs when the observer is looking across vast distances ... the surface plain will appear to rise to meet their eye level .... therefore obscuring , blocking , or making objects , appear to vanish from the naked eye . By the way ... how does water form itself into a curve to allow ships to descend over ? Once retrieved with a telescope ... the curve somehow mysteriously vanish ... because it wasn't there to begin with . The bottom of those buildings are partially blocked due to " Laws of Perspective " not curvature .
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Post by Bo on Jul 12, 2017 2:09:32 GMT
The trouble with these claims, flat earth and concave, is that I see no mathematics, and no well designed experiments... Just conjecture and opinion. And decent amount of condescending and bullying speech to the effect that those who believe the earth is round are stupid or blind. Those who support the flat or concave theories nearly to a person admit that they do not have the background in mathematics or physics to demonstrate or explain their claims, much less address the mountain of evidence to the contrary... And yet they pontificate as if they are experts, in general quoting other "research" that has been successfully debunked as either poorly done, misleading, or simply wrong. I find it oxymoronic that both theories are purported to be so "simple" as to be obvious to anyone who can read or look at a few pictures, but which nonetheless require a global conspiracy involving hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of scientists, for hundreds of years, across hundreds of nationalities and dozens of languages and cultures, all working in concert to fabricate one of the most startlingly elaborate hoaxes in history... Including fabricating millions of pages of scientific research and attendant mathematics, in addition to the photos claimed to be fake... All without a single credible witness ever coming forward to betray the conspiracy (in more than 500 years). The complexity and gargantuan nature of keeping such a conspiracy going in a way that is so nearly completely successful is both unprecedented in recorded history and inconceivable in human politics... There is no other example in history of something that big and that politically and technologically complicated ever working so well. And yet, those who suggest that concave or flat earth theories are so obvious because they are so "simple" in the following breath justify their beliefs by postulating the existence of the most complicated and mind numbingly intricate conspiracies ever conceived... Because presumably that is a simpler answer than that the earth is round. One final question that's been nagging at me... If pictures, such as those from space, are so easy to fake in the modern age, why should you trust those which purport to support your theories any more than those which refute them?
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Post by guest on Jan 8, 2018 6:26:02 GMT
try watching the sunset...
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Post by LIT on Apr 8, 2018 13:26:14 GMT
The trouble with these claims, flat earth and concave, is that I see no mathematics, and no well designed experiments... Just conjecture and opinion. And decent amount of condescending and bullying speech to the effect that those who believe the earth is round are stupid or blind. Those who support the flat or concave theories nearly to a person admit that they do not have the background in mathematics or physics to demonstrate or explain their claims, much less address the mountain of evidence to the contrary... And yet they pontificate as if they are experts, in general quoting other "research" that has been successfully debunked as either poorly done, misleading, or simply wrong. I find it oxymoronic that both theories are purported to be so "simple" as to be obvious to anyone who can read or look at a few pictures, but which nonetheless require a global conspiracy involving hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of scientists, for hundreds of years, across hundreds of nationalities and dozens of languages and cultures, all working in concert to fabricate one of the most startlingly elaborate hoaxes in history... Including fabricating millions of pages of scientific research and attendant mathematics, in addition to the photos claimed to be fake... All without a single credible witness ever coming forward to betray the conspiracy (in more than 500 years). The complexity and gargantuan nature of keeping such a conspiracy going in a way that is so nearly completely successful is both unprecedented in recorded history and inconceivable in human politics... There is no other example in history of something that big and that politically and technologically complicated ever working so well. And yet, those who suggest that concave or flat earth theories are so obvious because they are so "simple" in the following breath justify their beliefs by postulating the existence of the most complicated and mind numbingly intricate conspiracies ever conceived... Because presumably that is a simpler answer than that the earth is round. One final question that's been nagging at me... If pictures, such as those from space, are so easy to fake in the modern age, why should you trust those which purport to support your theories any more than those which refute them? Yeah, correct, but the thing is the globe believers, in their majority, are also unable to explain/prove their claims mathematically and 99.9% of the time simply stick to whatever the authorities in the given scientific area say or believe is true. It is just like a cult.
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