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Post by bahr56 on Apr 20, 2015 20:46:33 GMT
I am torn between Geocentrism and Flat Earth, here is a good book on the subject Geocentrism101 app.box.com/s/rlg0c3bt5e5e25q6ni6s61wr2iykgmgv This is NOT a threat to Flat Earth world view, more a stepping stone. I have collected from my friend files in this folder: app.box.com/s/qca7yhwvnd8h9t441vob3p0kh24jds9c Geocentrism is the view that the Earth is unmoving, in the center of the UNIverse, and EVERYTHING (even all the stars) rotate around it. But whatever truth is, the Geocentrism is a good DE-PROGRAMMING tool. It shift the focus from the Heliocentric view (where the earth rotates around the sun) to the Geocentric view (where the earth is unmoving in the center of creation). All the famous scientist can not reject it. They can not prove movement of the earth. So if majority can come to the realization that the Earth is actually the center of the creation, THEN suddenly Flat Earth can come forth. Because it can easily be proven, just fly due South until you hit something. Some exponents on Youtube; They are making a film, the Principle, supposed to be out soon. See movi-trailer; Read more: serendipitous.boards.net/thread/136/geocentric-worldview#ixzz3Xstc90B2
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Post by bahr56 on Apr 20, 2015 21:06:57 GMT
From the book Geocentrism101 app.box.com/s/rlg0c3bt5e5e25q6ni6s61wr2iykgmgvSome of the items written about in the book For example… Did you know that the newest cosmological evidence puts the Earth at the center of the universe, and this is admitted by many popular scientists? Did you know that experimental evidence from over one hundred years ago to the present day shows the Earth is motionless in space? Did you know that Einstein’s Special Theory of Relativity was invented precisely to counter the many experiments in the late 1800s that showed the Earth was standing still in space? Did you know that Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity was invented to cover the weaknesses of the Special Theory, but in doing so the General Theory allowed the Earth to be motionless in the center of the universe? Did you know that in addition to Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity, other theories of physics, such Newton’s laws of motion and Mach’s Principle, say that a universe rotating around a fixed Earth is as scientifically valid as a rotating Earth in a fixed universe? Did you know that every scientific proof for an Earth revolving around the sun and rotating on an axis has been discredited, and there has never been an experiment that has provided proof that the Earth is moving? Did you know that the most recent data from satellite probes sent up in the 1990s and 2000s show that the whole universe is aligned with both the Earth-sun ecliptic and the Earth’s equator, showing that our universe is geocentrically oriented with Earth at the center? Did you know that the most recent data from telescopes show that galaxies and many other celestial objects such as quasars and gamma ray bursts, are oriented around the Earth in concentric spheres? As you can see, in sharp contrast to Carl Sagan’s perspective that the Earth is lost in space, the scientific evidence shows we are, indeed, very special, since it appears we are placed at the very hub of the universe, motionless and serene, watched and cared for by Someone who apparently did not leave things to time and chance.
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Post by matt on Apr 20, 2015 21:59:17 GMT
Hello bahr56 - Robert Sungenis' work on Galileo was Wrong and the Principle was what got me started a year ago last January! Welcome.
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Post by bahr56 on Apr 20, 2015 22:12:35 GMT
Thanks Matt. I hope the Principle is out soon. Just now I listen to world finance and more, Jordan Maxwell: The Human Deception. - truthfrequencyradio.com/;
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Post by bahr56 on Apr 20, 2015 22:36:17 GMT
Some of us are leaning towards Geocentrism. Since we do not KNOW yet (ha ha), we can not fully accept anything. Also much of the proof for a flat earth seem solid too, and if the world is ruled by "the Church" - see video below the Geocentism can be a half truth thrown out to gather people to the church, just saying..... So the truth is NOT known. See video below. Jordan Maxwell: The Human Deception. Jordan Maxwell - truthfrequencyradio.com/ Read more: serendipitous.boards.net/conversation/178?page=1#ixzz3XtLZ6ef1
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Post by honesttruthseeker on Apr 21, 2015 10:05:53 GMT
This is a great topic.
Personally, I think geocentrism is much more easier to accept and is also valid.
I am the same, I cannot decide between geocentrism and flat Earth, although I lean towards geocentrism due to not enough proof on favor of a flat Earth and due to the fact that if Earth was indeed flat, I think more people would have figure it out, like pilots, land surveyors, architects doing large scale projects etc.
Matt, how come you say you saw the film The Principle last year, when is due to be released this year? I am looking forward to this movie.
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Post by matt on Apr 21, 2015 11:53:52 GMT
This is a great topic. Personally, I think geocentrism is much more easier to accept and is also valid. I am the same, I cannot decide between geocentrism and flat Earth, although I lean towards geocentrism due to not enough proof on favor of a flat Earth and due to the fact that if Earth was indeed flat, I think more people would have figure it out, like pilots, land surveyors, architects doing large scale projects etc. Matt, how come you say you saw the film The Principle last year, when is due to be released this year? I am looking forward to this movie. I did not see it yet, but was in touch with the producers to help promote it, so I had known a bit about it. I am still waiting for it to come to my area.
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Post by preciousjewel on Apr 25, 2015 11:28:04 GMT
Yes, that is so true about geocentrism being a stepping stone to the flat earth concept. That is exactly where I started.
Now my question is, if geocentrics still believe in a globe world, that doesn't move- spin etc... and there's no gravity. Then wouldn't all the water in the globe sit at the bottom end?
Also, if you stand at the bottom (if you didn't drown, lol) of the globe, and looked up, are you upside down? Because if you weren't, and you looked up then you would see Australia and not the sky etc..
Am I missing something? Please enlighten me. Thanks!
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Post by bahr56 on Apr 25, 2015 17:28:40 GMT
Well, I don't have a ready answer, read the book Geocentrism101, but there is no up and down in a Geocentric model. Also all the stars and the is "pull" keep everything circulating around a still Earth. Then there is the ETHER. But I am far from a specialist.
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